Posted February 22, 2014

Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome: Ray Rice video ‘doesn’t look good’

AFC North, Baltimore Ravens
Ray Rice has been charged with assault for striking his fiancée at an Atlantic City casino. (Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

Ray Rice has been charged with assault for striking his fiancée at an Atlantic City casino. (Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

INDIANAPOLIS — Ozzie Newsome said that the Ravens will avoid rushing to judgement regarding Ray Rice’s ongoing legal situation, but Baltimore’s general manager admitted that a video appearing to show Rice dragging his fiancée from the elevator of an Atlantic City casino “doesn’t look good.” Rice’s attorney confirmed the video was authentic but called it “incomplete.”

The MMQB’s Robert Klemko reported that police have video evidence of Rice knocking his fiancée unconscious prior to the incident on the elevator.

“Up until we get all of the facts, we’ll allow the process to run its course,” Newsome said. “As coach [John] Harbaugh said, we’ll let the facts determine what the consequences will be.”

Harbaugh told the media Friday that he expected Rice to remain with the team into the 2014 season, despite his arrest.

“I haven’t seen anything that would remotely make me think that [Rice would not be on the Ravens' roster moving forward],” Harbaugh said. “The two people obviously have a couple issues that they have to work through, and they’re both committed to doing that. That was the main takeaway for me from the conversation. They understand their own issues. They’re getting a lot of counseling and those kinds of things, so I think that’s really positive. That was the main takeaway.”

Both the league and the Ravens could step in with a punishment — possibly a substantial one — should Rice be found guilty. Thus far, he has been charged with simple assault for domestic violence. An Atlantic City court summons served for Rice, obtained by WJZ-TV reads that Rice did “commit assault by attempting to cause bodily injury … specifically by striking [his fiancée] with his hand, rendering her unconscious at the Revel Casino.”

Newsome said Saturday that he has not yet had a chance to talk with Rice about the situation. He also deferred to the league, at least for now, on a possible forthcoming punishment.

“As a league, we have a conduct policy — as a member of the league, we’ll follow that,” Newsome said. “We’ll allow the league to takes its position before we do.”

62 comments
big55ed
big55ed

And the security was so helpful getting her off the elevator.

swededawg52
swededawg52

Thanks Ozzie for speaking the obvious.

The_truth_hurts
The_truth_hurts

Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, Terrell Suggs, and now Ray Rice. This team is just littered with women beaters and murderers. 

SpencerNewcomer
SpencerNewcomer

"doesn't look good"... Really? Way to go Captain Obvious

William Mayland
William Mayland

It doesn't look good? Yes, I suppose it COULD look better.

Mark112
Mark112

Rice would look great in the black and silver - or in prison stripes for that matter.

friendly-neighborhood-scrawler
friendly-neighborhood-scrawler

Well short of a dead body i will not judge anything based on a girl getting knocked out.... they were in the elevator i dont know who started it, BUT i know it ended real quick... when will grown adults men or women understand you can't put your hands on another person... since they were both charged i will reserved judgement until the facts come out....she could be the main abuser in the relationship... she doesnt get a pass because Ray Rice hits harder

marksmen99
marksmen99

This is a black thing.... Just look at the behavior that is encouraged and celebrated in the Rap and Hip Hop community. What do you expect the outcome to be? His dad was a thug and now he is too. The cycle continues.


If you want to punish him For this behavior you are being racist.  Just make an excuse for him, enable him and move on. Status Quo.


SMH


Steven17
Steven17

Who's kidding who?  He's out of control, and likely was before this surfaced.  He's probably hit her before, and he'll do it again.  Before her there were likely others.  He has issues, hasn't sought or received treatment for them, and will continue the behavior until he's convinced to change.  The Ravens will not do him any favors by coddling him.  And just so I'm clear, anything less than termination of his employment with the team is coddling.  

FernandoR
FernandoR

SHUT UP The truth hurts, you're a idiot.


The_truth_hurts
The_truth_hurts

I'm embarrassed for his wife. How can you let that little garden gnome knock you out? My guess, he blindsided her. I bet if they squared up again, she would win in convincing fashion. 

Cranky24/7
Cranky24/7

I think Coach H would have been much better served by not saying anything at all.

Krivka
Krivka

The entire NFL is complicit in this type of behavior. How many times has an NFL athlete's behavior been held to that of a "normal" citizen? If Ray Rice is not prosecuted and kicked out of the NFL, it is one more indication the league is on the endangered species list. But it is more likely he will get on an ESPN show like his  former teammate and lucky linebacker pal.

big55ed
big55ed

@The_truth_hurts Who did Jamal Lewis beat or kill. He lent someone his cell phone. When the government can't convict the guilty they go after the innocent. Will the NFL ban Rice's woman from ball games for assault on Ray.

Steven17
Steven17

@friendly-neighborhood-scrawler  Where did you read that both were charged?  Also, the story clearly states the police have video footage of him knocking her out BEFORE getting on the elevator.

mefoster86
mefoster86

@marksmen99  If you have to add SMH to the end of your post, you aren't intelligent enough to accurately get your point across through words.

Mr. J
Mr. J

@marksmen99  Hey idiot have you met his dad?......Its people like you that run off at the mouth but are quiet as a sheep in public...and you wonder why racism won't go away....Just do me a favor keep child predator types like you away from my kids.!!

pirate
pirate

@marksmen99 Yeah, because white people NEVER hit women, or use drugs or any of those other awful hip hip things. If he did it, he'll be punished. The only one showing any racism is you.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@Steven17  For someone pretending to know all there is to know about Ray Rice, your liberal use of "likely" and "probably" says that you are simply guessing.

pirate
pirate

@Steven17   And you know of this alleged pattern and history of abuse because you've seen WHAT facts? Or are you making a guess based on your own imagination? Fortunately, the legal standards of proof are a little higher than, "He probably did it before."

pirate
pirate

@Krivka   I think you mean, "If Ray Rice is proven in a court of law to have done this, he should be kicked out of the NFL. After all, he has the same rights as a so-called "normal" citizen.

mystafugee
mystafugee

@Krivka  What are you basing this on?  That a racist, homophobic, and sexist player on the Dolphins bullies a teammate and the rest of the team backs the racist, homophobic, and sexist player or that apparently being gay is a bigger red flag than breaking laws?

marksmen99
marksmen99

@Mr. J @marksmen99  child molestation?  Where did that come from.... Is that what you are sitting there thinking about. What is wrong with you? 



Do some research on ray rice's father then come back to the forum and apologize for your ignorance

marksmen99
marksmen99

@pirate @marksmen99  not so good at reading are you pirate? Don't be discouraged, keep practicing, you will get better.


I never said whites don't hit people or use drugs... In fact I didn't even mention white people or drugs in my comment. You must be inventing your own comment so you have something to use your predetermined response on.  Sorry, you missed the target on this one.


As long as you raised the topic, white people are not immune from this deplorable behavior. The key difference is that it is not considered acceptable much less celebrated like it is in the urban rap and hip hop community. The continued propogation of this behavior is why this demographic continues to fail at assimilation into proper society.  This of course comes with the inability to participate in the benefits available under this society. 


There are a select few who prosper greatly with this approach at the community's overall expense and there is a wider population that supports and enables this mentality in order to continue their suppression. 


Which one are you?

Steven17
Steven17

@JoeCabot@pirate:  I made an educated observation.  I am knowledgeable of domestic abuse.  I seriously doubt he suddenly just decided to knock her out.  Think about that for a moment.  He knocked her out!  He didn't just call her a name.  He didn't just pluck her ear.  He didn't just slap her.  Those things are certainly bad.  But he went way beyond that.  He knocked her out!  Then he dragged her along the floor.  In a public area.  That tells me he was out of control.  And given that it was a public place I can assume he didn't care that he might be seen.  No man who is in control of himself, and free of emotional issues, just knocks his wife/gf/fiance out cold and drags her along the floor for others to see.  So yes, I'm making an educated observation that it's probably not the first time he's lost control and been abusive.  


I've been married to the same woman for 35 years.  I've never hit her, and I never would.  I've never been physically or emotionally abusive to her, and never will.  That's because I'm an adult male, I'm in full control of my emotions, and I strive to always be respectful to those around me.  My wife is at the top of the list.  


Of course I wasn't there, and I don't have all the facts, and I could be wrong and this is an isolated incident.  But I highly doubt it.  I'm entitled to my educated observations based on more than 55 years in this world.  You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine.  If you believe he's innocent, or that it's really not what it seems, that's your prerogative.

bandit74
bandit74

@pirate @Krivka  Why should he be kicked out of the NFL?  Even if he is convicted.  How does one relate to the other?  If you are an accountant and you get convicted of domestic abuse, or DUI or whatever, does that mean you can no longer be an accountant?  I understand that some fields have certain crimes that would lead to automatic decertification (i.e. fraud for an accountant), but the NFL doesn't, at least not per se.  


I do not condone Rice's deplorable (alleged) actions, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that he should be barred from his profession for a simple criminal conviction.

fgold2014
fgold2014

@marksmen99 @pirate  Oh Marksmen99 - here you go:  Sean Penn, Charlie Sheen, Tommy Lee (Motley Crue), Josh Brolin, Axl Rose, Phil Spector, Vince Neil, John Daly (golfer), Mel Gibson, John Lennon (first wife), Sean Connery, Gary Oldman, Richie Icgonito.... shall I go on? 

WilliamCross
WilliamCross

Hahahahaha! "My hatred for the Steelers stems from that day." And you are?

pirate
pirate

@marksmen99 @Mr. J@pirate OK, can we please stop this? There is no reason to accuse people of child molesting or anything else. What's the matter with you guys? This isn't a schoolyard fight. This is people supposedly commenting on a news story. 


As to marksmen's list of black people who have committed crimes, I could provide an equal list of white people, or Asians, or probably Inuits. That's the point. It's not a black thing. I'm not saying it's a white thing. Having covered crime as a reporter for 40 years I am sad to say it's all too human. I have yet to find just how low humans can go. There's no need to be a racist about it.

marksmen99
marksmen99

@pirate @marksmen99  rae carruth, Chris brown, ike turner, Jason Kidd, oj Simpson, Floyd may weather, mike Tyson,  True Goon Tocool Sneekey, Nguy Lamont Hughs, puff daddy, ray rice, Joe budden, Brandon Marshall, Wesley snipes, Dr. Dre. 


There are fifteen very easy and very public examples. Blame make up 10% of the population, give me 150 non black explore and I will crawl back into my cave... Otherwise crawl back into yours.


Or go stick your head in the nearest sand dune... the truth is so inconvienent.

Mr. J
Mr. J

@marksmen99 @pirate  Marksman you probably go around trying to get little children keep your sicko type away from our kids!

pirate
pirate

@marksmen99 @pirate And yet when Rothlisberger came back from his "punishment"  – a four-game suspension for, well, let's put it nicely, he got away with having sex with a drunken woman in a tavern bathroom, though in many jurisdictions a drunken woman is by law not capable of giving consent – he was given a standing ovation by the good folks of Pittsburgh. I was watching that game. My hatred of the Steelers stems from that day. When you comment on a story about assault and battery (let's be clear, that's what this is) by saying "This is a black thing," I think I know where you're coming from. I'm just surprised you had the balls to expose yourself so thoroughly.


Assault, domestic violence, battery, call it what you will. It's not a black thing. Sadly, it's an all too human thing.

bandit74
bandit74

@marksmen99 @pirate  For your premise to have any validity whatsoever we would have to assume that all blacks engage in "urban hip-hop" culture and furthermore, that no whites do.  Clearly, this is not the case.  


Domestic violence is very much NOT a black thing.  It permeates all demographics like a cancer.  Perhaps you should educate yourself and your bigotry would not be so blatantly apparent.

bandit74
bandit74

@Steven17 @JoeCabot  Unless you watch the video...  But I tend to agree with you.  It is unlikely that this is the first instance of abuse on Rice's part.

Steven17
Steven17

@JoeCabot  Unless we were there and involved, all we ever have is second hand info.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@Steven17 You are absolutely entitled to your observations, as am I.   I did not make any statement that defended the guy nor did I make one that said that he was innocent.  Simply wrote an opinion that your educated opinion was based on second hand knowledge.

Junkjunk
Junkjunk

@bandit74 @pirate@KrivkaAn accountant is a poor analogy. Outside of professional athletics you'd have to go higher up the chain to get to someone with the public recognition  that a player like Rice has. Absolutely no question though if a Fortune 500 CEO were to do this he'd be out on the street the next day.


And its Rice's visibility that makes it essential that this be dealt with quickly and strongly.  There are millions of young boys watching who need to be shown that this is not acceptable behavior.