Posted November 18, 2013

Umpire who allegedly swore at Trent Williams had been admonished before

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NFL umpire Roy Ellison in 2009. (Mike Groll/AP)

Trent Williams accused NFL umpire Roy Ellison (seen here in 2009) of swearing at him during Sunday’s game. (Mike Groll/AP)

After the Washington Redskins’ 24-16 Sunday loss to the Philadelphia Eagles at Lincoln Financial Field, Washington left tackle Trent Williams relayed to the media that he had been verbally abused by umpire Roy Ellison during the game.

“When you have a ref come up to while you’re at the line about to run a play and call you, excuse my language, but a ‘garbage-a– disrespectful motherf—–,’ ” said Williams. “To me this is a player’s league. I just don’t think there’s no room for you to have to take that from the team and the refs. I think it’s very unprofessional and it sucks. I’m at a loss for words. You never expect that as a player going into a game to have to beef with the refs also.”

At that point in the locker room, Washington receiver Pierre Garcon told Williams to stop talking about the alleged incident before he got fined. Williams’ response was that he hoped Ellison, who he identified by his uniform number (81) would be fined as well.

Guard Kory Lichtensteiger backed Williams’ story, and said that he was miked up for the game. If Lichtensteiger’s microphone has audio that confirms the incident, Ellison could obviously be in a lot of hot water. Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post laid out what could be the play in question, late in the second quarter. After an Alfred Morris fumble was overturned on review with 3:51 left in the first half, the broadcast feed shows Ellison walking by Williams and saying something that caused Williams (71), tight end Niles Paul (84), and quarterback Robert Griffin III (10) to turn and look at him. Griffin turned to look as Williams and Paul kept staring at Ellison.

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“I’ve never heard anything like that before in my life,” Lichtensteiger said. “I don’t know what it was, but that guy came out with some kind of vendetta. I don’t have a lot else to say, but I heard that comment.”

The NFL said that it would look into the incident, of course. But on Monday’s FOX Football Daily show, former NFL VP of Officiating Mike Pereira said that he had talked with Ellison about this specific problem before.

“What concerns me about this is I sat in the same chair that Dean Blandino, the Vice President of Officiating, is sitting in right now, with the same official, Roy Ellison, who years ago allegedly shouted and swore at players, and it was a big issue that I had to deal with,” Pereira said (via Pro Football Talk). “I actually had to talk with him in the office to make sure that none of this was going on. So the fact that it has happened twice now with the same individual has to concern the league, and I know they are taking a strong look at this.”

Pereira said that because there was no audio of the previous profanity, no action was taken against Ellison.

“When I had to deal with it, there was no proof, so it was a he said, she said. But something happened. And we did have a long conversation, Roy and I did, that we should never act like this as a football official on the field. And I said to him, ‘I don’t ever want to hear about this again.’”

Ellison, one of the NFL’s few full-time officials, has been an umpire in the league since 2003. If Pereira, who generally excused his officials’ mistakes to a fault when he was the league, is willing to come out with this story publicly, one wonders what kind of future Ellison has in pro football.

During his Monday press conference, Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan recalled one other incident he could remember in which a game official engaged in language toward a player that could be considered profane or abusive.

“We had a few players that were involved with this one so it’s a little bit unprecedented. One of our players – they [wore a microphone] and we’ll find out if the NFL has any information on that. But I feel very strongly about the words that were used to our players because you have a number of players that said they heard it. So I’m disappointed in what had happened but that’s probably all I can discuss at this point.”

 

51 comments
JamesMartin
JamesMartin

I love how everybody wants somebody fired everytime there is a problem.

matthewmhunter
matthewmhunter

“To me this is a player’s league."  Correction, it is a fan's league. We pay your bills. Get it straight. W/O fans, you have no career.

Wisconsin Death Trip
Wisconsin Death Trip

Been saying it for 30+ years....the refs need to be suspended and fined just like the players when they screw up. The refs need to be held accountable more often. It's obviously a UNION thing...ZZzzsst!

leon1376
leon1376

NFL officiating has dropped to the same level you find in the NBA. Non-calls. Phantom calls. Grudge penalties. Officials cursing at players. Officials deciding the final score. Totally corrupt. 

houndstoothunderwear
houndstoothunderwear

Maybe the ref was trying to "toughen him up"...so did Mike Pereira order the code red ?  LOL ..actually I'd like to hear more outtakes on the NFL channel from refs

"Peyton Manning quit crying you wuss...Brady my daughter handles a rush better than you..."

UtahPete
UtahPete

Wow, sounds like the NFL is becoming like the NBA with refs who are compromised. 

Unicornhunter
Unicornhunter

People, the issue is whether the ref is going to be impartial if he's screaming at an individual player.  It isn't about a player hearing a bad word or getting shouted at.  Lots of clueless comments missing the point on this one.

reed
reed

Why is the ref talking to the players to begin with? 

jsmarkley
jsmarkley

So, lemme get this straight, you guys will jump over anyone who complains about head injuries b/c the players 'signed up for it.' But a ref calls a player names & all of sudden he shouldn't be subjected to such abuse & the ref should be fired? Each day, the NFL comes closer to becoming the WWE. 

WolfgangGoethe
WolfgangGoethe

This ref has no business officiating any game at any level.  He has to go.

likedoohan
likedoohan

This is hilarious. Officials at all levels in all sports are constantly abused by players, fans and coaches, and rarely reply in kind. Now this 300 lbs behemoth who spends his life in a locker room is upset at being called a name he probably uses daily. What a joke.

Paul A
Paul A

Wondered what Trent did for the ref to commit to him.  If this ref is fined or fired Brady should be given the same treatment.  What he did last night after the game is a disgrace and if this was any other player they would be fined.  Also some please tell Mallet to shut up and stop following brady.  He should be fine as well.


RichLGerhold
RichLGerhold

 And right after they fine/fire this ref, then Tom Brady should be fined for the colorful language he was caught spewing at the end of the game last night as he followed the refs into the tunnel, even if the call was wrong, nothing gives him the right to behave like that.

thebigdawg3
thebigdawg3

Williams is a garbage a&& mother f*(ker loser of a player and a person.  The ref just stated the obvious and should be applauded for doing so.

dandogwood
dandogwood

All Dan Snyder has to do is ask that the ref be fired and it's done. Just fire the guy and move on. Him being black makes it harder but fire him anyway.

Oldtimeduffer
Oldtimeduffer

This ref should be fired, yesterday.  The game is about the players, not the refs.  However I don't expect anything to happen because as often as not it's the refs, not the players, that decide the outcome of a game. 

NicholasMew
NicholasMew

Considering the verbal abuse and grief that the coaches and players dish out to the refs, I'm not really that bothered that a ref gives it back, although I'd prefer that they acted more professionally and not do it.

SethElDuderinoFischer
SethElDuderinoFischer

Well, a personal bias by a ref towards a player may mean a tendency to be biased in how they see plays developing regarding penalties and non-calls.


swededawg52
swededawg52

Oh no, he cursed at the Sunday School student!  I am sure they have never heard this language in their lives.  OK commissioner lets go after the officials for language and then continue to destroy the game with your metro male mentality.  In case, you have never known, this is a game played by men and not poets. The last play of tonight's game shows you your influence on the decline of the game.  Congrats, in 5 years the NFL will be lucky to be on the SFY channel as a prelude to WWE.

muser
muser

he can't be fired...he's black.

Matthew53
Matthew53

Wait, so the players can say whatever **** comes into their mind through the entire game at the ref and the ref is suppose to act like it never happened....but when a ref says something to these coddled overpaid primadonnas its wrong?


Can't take it means don't dish it out.

MrArlington
MrArlington

Ump will be canned by next week. Trent is right in that this is a players league. Ump has no filter.

wanganui
wanganui

Well if the shoe fits...

ArtSpot
ArtSpot

This sounds like someone getting old and losing their filter (happens to us as we get older).

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Every week the NFL has embarrassing incidents like this. It demonstrates a lack of leadership from the top. And it has gotten past the point of seriousness.

erman3155
erman3155

Drug test him. Or check how he's been betting.

rh2000
rh2000

Don't know where the ref's would think it was ok in any way to speak like that if true?   Just think of what would be going on if Roy Ellison was white??? 

DaveStone
DaveStone

Is this what the Incognito/Thomas thing has brought us? Whining baby football players that everybody has to talk nicely to them. Give me a break.....

sterculius65
sterculius65

Affirmative action hire, nothing will happen to him now like nothing was done to him in the past.

stabmasterarson21
stabmasterarson21

@JamesMartin You think the ump deserves a place in any league, pro or amateur cursing out a player?  You're part of the problem then! #PlanetDoofy

Unicornhunter
Unicornhunter

@jsmarkley Are you kidding?  The issue with the ref is that anything that demonstrates he may not be impartial goes to the integrity of the game.  If a ref is going off on a player, who is to say he won't throw a flag on him more often, etc.  They need to be impartial and above any garbage talk.  The issue isn't that a player might hear a bad word.  Get a clue

RobertJacke
RobertJacke

@WolfgangGoethe Could we hear from both sides, Remember 2 sides to very story or maybe 3 sides.......but so far we only heard from 1 side

JonEdwardBrenneman
JonEdwardBrenneman

@likedoohan - I officiate high school and college, as well as training and assigning of high school officials and there is absolutely no place for an official to swear or yell at a player or coach.  If a coach or player crosses the line you have flags, use them.  Not only have I flagged both players and coaches for conduct and I once ejected a coach for repeated profane complaints and once ejected a player for intentionally making conduct with an official.  But I have never, in 14 years of officiating ever yelled or cussed at a player or coach. 

RichLGerhold
RichLGerhold

@swededawg52 Totally ignorance here. 

 Two wrongs don't make a right, and the certainly don't justify his actions under any circumstance.

If players get in trouble for the same behavior, then referee's should as well. 

meandmesa
meandmesa

@swededawg52 Just brilliant.  Totally misses the point.  A ref acting this way makes it appear he has a bias towards a particular player or team that could affect the kind of penalties he calls.  Stop connecting unrelated stories together to reinforce your faux tough guy persona.  It just makes you further sound like a 4th grader with no social skills and whose angry that he's not the most popular kid.

KidHorn
KidHorn

@Matthew53 What evidence is there that anything was said to the ref to cause his verbal response?

drbcool
drbcool

I certainly am losing some hearing, but I have no problem controlling my tongue or my temper. I am 73. People with dementia or Alzheimer's often have that problem but it is not a typical result of aging.

inthepresent
inthepresent

@Rickapolis 

past serious = funny, which in turn = fired.

reminds one of certain NBA officials. 

Terry
Terry

Then he would would be sitting on the set of Fox And Friends as the newest co-host.

Hola
Hola

@rh2000If Roy Ellison was white, there would be a biggest defense of the official by Mike Pereira.  NFL officials, like all officials, are crooked and one the take.

gyffes
gyffes

@DaveStone It's a job. They're working. You think it's ok if I come to the burger king you work at and swear at you through the speaker?


You're a moron, DaveStone, like your inbred dog. Get off teh internets before you hurt yourself.

Terry
Terry

@sterculius65 

You're right.

That should have been a white man facing sanctions for being unprofessional.

White victim hood is so amusing.

Just wait until you really are the minority, then you'll really have something to whine about.

Hola
Hola

@sterculius65 LOL...It was affirmative action official that threw the flag with the big bad black guy hit Drew Brees.  Don't you think the hit and call was the result of racism.  LOL

eddie767
eddie767

@RobertJacke Two sides have been heard. Oh,you mean the outspoken ref. Well,he has done this before or as some would say a history. If his former boss,one of the most respected refs in NFL history,believes the players side bye bye. If the players have to respect the refs.then they need to do the same. Williams plus 3 respected players heard this. To bad or is it good,he didn't know one of players was mic'd.