Posted November 06, 2013

Richie Incognito considered ‘an honorary black man’ by Dolphins teammates

AFC East, Miami Dolphins
Richie Incognito has been suspended indefinitely by the Dolphins.

Richie Incognito has been suspended indefinitely by the Dolphins. (Wilfredo Lee/AP)

One of the lingering mysteries in the Dolphins’ messy Richie Incognito-Jonathan Martin case has been the lack of backlash toward Incognito from within the team’s locker room, despite Incognito referring to Martin as a “half-n—–” on one voicemail.

We may now have an answer, unusual as it may be. Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reported Wednesday that Incognito is considered “an honorary black man” by his teammates.

“Richie is honarary,” one player who left the Dolphins this offseason told me today. “I don’t expect you to understand because you’re not black. But being a black guy, being a brother is more than just about skin color. It’s about how you carry yourself. How you play. Where you come from. What you’ve experienced. A lot of things.”

That explanation seemingly goes hand in hand with what ESPN’s Cris Carter said on SportsCenter, following a talk with Miami center Mike Pouncey.

“They love Richie Incognito and they wish he was playing football for them this [Monday],” Carter said, via the Herald.

Receiver Mike Wallace echoed those comments to Salguero, saying, “I don’t have a problem with Richie. I love Richie.” Cornerback Brent Grimes and tight end Michael Egnew, meanwhile, both stated that Incognito is not racist.

These were simply the latest twists and turns in a situation that has spiraled out of control on the Dolphins.

Late Tuesday night, the Sun Sentinel‘s Omar Kelly added gasoline to the fire with a report that head coach Joe Philbin had asked Incognito to “toughen up” Martin. (That report drew comparisons to the “Code Red” issued by Jack Nicholson’s character in the movie A Few Good Men.)

But Pouncey told Carter that the prank which set Martin over the edge — players in the team cafeteria standing up from their table when another player sat down — “had been played on many Dolphins players ‘dozens’ of times. Even coach Joe Philbin has been a target of the prank.” Whether or not Martin felt unfairly victimized, Pouncey said that Martin had thought of quitting football “long before” going AWOL on Oct. 28.

Which circles the whole discussion back around to that touchy subject of Martin’s relationship with his teammates. Whereas Incognito apparently was “an honorary black man,” the biracial Martin was not, per Salguero.

“Indeed, Martin was considered less black than Incognito.

“Another former Dolphins employee told me Martin is considered ‘soft’ by his teammates and that’s a reason he’s not readily accepted by some of the players, particularly the black players,” Salguero wrote. “His background — Stanford educated and the son of highly educated people — was not necessarily seen as a strength or a positive by some players and it perpetuated in the way Martin carried himself.”

Incognito currently is serving an indefinite, team-issued suspension as the NFL investigates the circumstances of Martin’s exit. Salguero reported earlier this week that Incognito will “never play another game” for the Dolphins.

There also remains no set expectation for if and when Martin may return. The Dolphins are expected to place him on the reserve/non-football illness list in the coming days, but it is growing harder and harder to believe that he will suit up for the Dolphins again — especially with his teammates quicker to have Incognito’s back than offer Martin much support.

300 comments
DavidovRudnikova
DavidovRudnikova

in 30 to 40 years race will no longer be an issue and one's social status/upbringing will be all that matters. More importantly... how the act. If they act corporate and accordingly. If they exhibit the Standard American Dialect... or SAD. lol

Bearsclone
Bearsclone

So just to be clear, these black players are saying that being a "thug" is the same as being "black" and being educated and well spoken is the same as being "soft" and (possibly) "white."  And it's okay for Richie, a white person, to hurl racial slurs at a black man, because he's "really" black and Martin "really" isn't.

As if NFL locker rooms couldn't look any more stupid to outsiders.

MattHaynes
MattHaynes

Oh, he is an honorary black man?  That just makes it all better. /end sarcasm
3 of my kids are black so I guess I can start calling other blacks n**gers now also.  Hey, it's cool, I am a black man by family association, the Richie Incognito defense, as it is better known.

gOOGLEgUY
gOOGLEgUY

IS the NFL and SI really reporting unnamed sources saying incognito is an 'honary black man'?

Edan
Edan

To Martin's Attorney. FOOTBALL IS A VICIOUS PHYSICAL ASSAULT. If you can't handle it, don't play.

Edan
Edan

None of this amounts to a hill of beans. Martin was being replaced with Bryant McKinnie. His feelings were hurt. He needed to grow a set of balls. The kid has talent, but if your heart isn't into playing a violent, vicious sport, then you don't belong there. Move on.

Edan
Edan

I was watching the comedy roast of a black rapper, Flav-o-flav  tonight. The white comedians never used the N-word even one time. The blacks used it repeatedly. While on camera, during the actual roast, over and over, and over and over..Every Black person said it at least once, but most said it repeatedly, and again. Incognito is not a racist, Martin is a punkazz biatch boy. Go home to mommy, cry a little, then get out of the NFL. You don't have what it takes.

AprilBentley-robie
AprilBentley-robie

Incognito is being called an honorary black man. Now how is that not just as racist as saying the "N" word. Martin got tired of not being treated black by other blacks so he gets mad at the white guy who is liked by his fellow teammates. Not fair and why is it that every time a conflict comes up between a "white" person and any other race it is immediately deemed that the white guy must be racist. Is every black rapper that uses the "N" word in each and every song not a racist against their own race but if anyone else says it we are racist. Look up the definition and stop trying to stir up racism that isn't there.

AprilBentley-robie
AprilBentley-robie

Every person that is sitting here calling Incognito names is committing the same offense you are bashing him for. So shut your racist mouths until all the facts come out. Incognito should take every person that is calling him these racially horrible names to court and sue them. And by racially horrible I am speaking about the black man named Whitlock that called Incognito a " white tatted up goon". My husband is white and has more tattoos than Incognito but that doesn't make him racist or a goon.

DetroitFunk
DetroitFunk

Oh by the way Incognito was kicked out of Nebraska,and another school without ever playing,and was cut from the Rams for arguing with the HeadCoach,and if you've ever heard his Father, you'll know the apple didn't fall far from the tree

IWILLCHILLBLOOD
IWILLCHILLBLOOD

I listen to YG sing about my Niga. Seems like they like that stuff and everybody dances to it so....

doniquelamar28
doniquelamar28

Now that right there is a whole bunch of B.S. nobody is considered a" honorary black man" wtf. With that cleared up...if Icognito had such a position...he would f**** know the "n-word" used in a form is offensive, even in the internal black culture. So, screw that..its more like taking advantage of highly regarded position. But hell no "honorary black man"..we wake up with two strikes everyday.

HollisWood
HollisWood

Once again, WE black people dumb down our blackness. Thank you to the Dolphins football team for continuing to push forward the belief that one's blackness is directly defined by one's intellect. No wonder non-blacks make assumptions about US as lazy, shiftless, welfare recipients, ex-offenders and uneducated thugs.

 
Seriously, Thank You Dolphins players from an ACC-educated Master's Degree holding, 'former' black man. BTW, I like Rock music, too....

FAX
FAX

Incognito an "honorary black man". What an astounding concept. Jonathan Martin comes from a good family, has a good education, is well-spoken and intelligent. Meanwhile, Richie Incognito is a brute, a thug, had a father who encouraged violence, and and was kicked out of two college programs before he was 20 years old. Think about it. The Phin players think Incognito is more "black" than Martin (who actually is). Whoa. That, dear friends, says a whole lot about black culture today.

PaulKelly
PaulKelly

A sports locker room is a universe all its own. As much as the media people who travel in there think they understand it, they do not. Nothing happening in there reflects life outside the doors. I am wondering how this kid got through college without some degree of bullying coming his way unless he was the perfect player that somehow has lost his way. I have played high school sports and while I had a great time and wouldn't trade it for anything, it certainly was abusive, but I got my licks in too.  There is a ton of screaming, yelling, finger pointing, etc. I can only imagine how intense a pro locker room/ practice must be. Sounds more like this kid felt in over his head, couldn't take the noise and quit on the team.  Incgnito is enough of a genuine jerk  and "D"bag to spin this onto. I believe that the insults are accurate and I also believe that the Dolphins have a serious management failure by allowing this to get out to the media and by not identifying the weakness of the Martian kid in time. This kid did not suddenly have a problem. His agent called the team and the team decided to pass it back onto his agent.  

JPG
JPG

Chris Carter of ESPN is taking Mike Pouncey?

The same Mike Pouncey that was subpoenaed by a grand jury with five uniformed police officers ten days ago into gun trafficking charges relative to the murder case of former teammate Aaron Hernandez.

Mr. Incognito - if I were you I would decline knowing Mike Pouncey.  Right now your previous association with him doesn't bode well with your case.

Octavio
Octavio

And yet, I suspect that if an African-American man amongst a majority of Caucasians was to be publicly termed an "Honorary White Man," you would not be able to contain the Sharpton-esque frenzy that would follow. 

OggyFX
OggyFX

if RICHIE incognito dont know how to electric slide ,. he aint no black man

SportsAaron
SportsAaron

"Brother", there is nothing honorary about anyone using racial epithets about any ethnic/racial group. Nor is there honor in threatening anyone's family or speaking with disdain about a person's mother in voice messages.

Only a modern-day "step-n-fetchit" in cleats would allow such bile to constantly dribble out of another person's mouth in or out of the locker room without taking that person aside and gently read him the riot act.

I hope someday you may come to your senses and walk away from the cotton fields of today.

Jackie C.
Jackie C.

Just watching the NFL Network coverage the past few days on this story completely validated everything in this article. 

The DISGUSTING thing is how the media wants to turn it into a race issue, when it has absolutely nothing to do with race. 

It's about Martin being an emotionally unstable individual who can't make it in the NFL. He quits, and decides to throw his closest (by all the players' accounts) friend on the team under the bus with an ancient voicemail, playing the 'Race Card' like the media loves to. 

Martin's the bad guy in this story,Incognito the victim!!

I no longer watch ESPN, but I still watch the NFL Network as much as I can stomach. This story is a perfect example why I don't.  All the women incessantly clucking about race. Every one of 'em. Are they directed to drive the agenda, or are they so brainwashed they can't at all think for themselves?

rh2000
rh2000

Well this is at a point where it has become a who gives a $%&# story.  

The team, and the players are all responsible for what goes on in the locker room.  The player's police it based on all the comments .

It looks like the only one who didn't conform to what was wanted by all, was Martin. 

The players are paid to be warriors.  Not drama queens, that's why we watch the NFL.  This is not a love story.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out Martin.  

Hope ya get help for your emotional issues.

Next Topic

btcvsolo
btcvsolo

Oh. OK.

That makes everything alright then.

The NFL....more drama than a high school 2 weeks before prom....


Terry
Terry

“His background — Stanford educated and the son of highly educated people — was not necessarily seen as a strength or a positive by some players

This statement turns my stomach and is indicative of the loser mentality some of our black men carry.

 If you are not mediocre like them, then you are to be belittled just so they can feel better about their lack of academic success.

 An educated black man is to be lauded, not ostracized.

The locker room culture isn't the only one that deserves a thorough review.

k_tuncer
k_tuncer

How else would the black players - of which none had the fortitude to stand in Incognito's way - have been able to live with a racist in the leadership position? Love'm or leave, if you don't have the guts to stand up to him.   Sick.

Mech
Mech

I am tired of politically correct people trying to say they know more about what happened in that locker room then the players. None of the players so far has criticized Incognito. In fact some have said he was Martin's best friend and was there to back him up in games when things got nasty. The players say Incognito is not racist and frankly I am more inclined to believe the players then anything the media or these femmed up pc correct soap box orators here. Sometimes guys are just not cut out to be on teams. Teams demand players give all they have got and not wuss out,,, and to me it sounds like Martin wasn't delivering and the players knew it. In the Marines the same kind of thing happened although not frequently to people who were cowards. You simply don't want to go on patrol and put your life on the line when the man next to you wont protect your back. Political correctness just doesn't cut it in that instance.  These guys make a living in the NFL, so this is important to them and apparently their opinion on Martin is not high.

Terryble
Terryble

fkin racist title and article. 

Scott88
Scott88

Props again to Richies team mates for being cool.  The media makes Incognito sound like a jerk.  Maybe he is, and current politically correct America will probably burn a poker up his butt, whether he is or is not, so props to his team mates who know him and are aware that change is in the air and, that they, also had better watch what they say from  now  on .  As slightly disturbed men, we realize that we bust on the people we know best . If Richie didn't like Martin and was harassing him, than maybe it is harassment.  Question:  Maybe the days of bustin' are growing short?   Facts are facts. Rarely are they ever all disclosed.  Scapegoats are scapegoats and erroring on the side of caution are words to live by now. 

Honorary
Honorary

WTF ? Honorary Black man ! [ "Honorary", Recognition of one's achievement, Having or conferring distinction. ] By saying that Black is a higher achievement then what he is, is a slap in the face to every other race on the planet. We will never end Racism with that kind of mentality. So is Martin an honorary White man due to his education ? C'mon man !!!


IWILLCHILLBLOOD
IWILLCHILLBLOOD

@FAX Bill Clinton was the first "black president". You know, it would never occur to me to make a black guy an honorary white guy. It seems however, that a lot of Whites feel the need to gain black approval with stuff like this. In general, at least for the slice of black America that likes Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, and not the part that likes Walter WIlliams, Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain, and Alan West:  the more they disapprove of me, the more I know I am doing just fine.

Edan
Edan

@PaulKelly Martin wanted to quit, according to other BLACK sources on the team. But he was too much of a wussy to even do that.

Edan
Edan

@JPG Pouncey went to school with and played on the same College Football team as Hernandez. I guess that means all University of Florida players are guilty of some sort of crime, to you? Back at least 20 years. Why not go back 50 years???

IWILLCHILLBLOOD
IWILLCHILLBLOOD

@SportsAaron nobody says step-n-fetchit or cotton field analogies anymore. They don't know what real racism was and the association with those terms you used. Why? Nobody cares! We are just that far removed from it. This ridiculous hyper-focus is solely because Obama is president and white liberals and race hustlers want to capitalize on it. But when the "victim" populace of American blacks do start seriously reading each other the riot act in terms of using the word ni@@er, and stop a host of other anti-social behavior and abdication of any personal responsibility, then things may change. BTW, my Jewish Great Grandfather said "Behind every stereo-type is a HUGE grain of truth..."

DetroitFunk
DetroitFunk

@Jackie C. Were you in the locker room? Do you know Martin Personally?,How do you know that man is emotionally unstable?,Incognito the victim?Another RACIST idiot with a computer,Incognito was a Racist bully long before this,how do you explain him getting kicked out of Nebraska,transferring to anther school,and being kicked out of that school with out even playing,or being cut from the Rams,for arguing with the Head coach,Another Racist idiot with a computer

awhole123456
awhole123456

@rh2000 if they were paid to be "warriors" as you say we would give them rifles and send them to far flung corners of the world to do our nation's bidding. One doesn't fight football... one PLAYS football. Also, NFL players  generally ARE self absorbed drama queens (e.g. let me run as far as I can from the tackle I make as I can so everyone can see me flex my pro-hormone saturated body). They are playing a children's game for a king's ransom.

To me it seems that the 'team' has poor leaders if they foster a climate that makes distinctions between black men, honorary black men, and half-black men that aren't really black. If Incognito is a leader on the team that fostered such a mentality then he is a toxic leader and a cancer to the organization that should be fired.


Jackie C.
Jackie C.

@btcvsolo what are you saying? What it is shows is - the wrong guy's on trial for the wrong reasons. 

Jackie C.
Jackie C.

@Terry Your own bias colors your interpretation of the statement. It's not seen as a positive in lieu of being a tough and effective player. In other words, it's not a substitute. If he were pulling his weight, a guy his teammates could depend upon - they would absolutely admire his academic credentials. 

Centennial
Centennial

@rentistoohigh  

Good question because that is exactly what this whole affair is going to boil down to. That doesn't let Incognito off the hook though. 

AprilBentley-robie
AprilBentley-robie

@Mech finally some one with some some brains. I agree with you completely. Thank you. This is about a man that wasn't doing his job the way his teammates believed he should. When you join the NFL you should know the expectations of the job. These are football players. Not ballerinas.@AprilBentley-robie 

Jackie C.
Jackie C.

@Mech Absolutely! But don't think you're going to change the mind of a brainwashed fool with sheer fact, reason, logic and common sense. 

SportsAaron
SportsAaron

@Honorary I believe the implication "honorary black man" is a sort of play on words used by the South African apartheid regime that in the 60's and 70's conferred the title of "honorary white race" on the Japanese people who did business with South Africa. It also implies a sort of acknowledgement that "you're one of us" in a fraternal sense. But nonetheless, the crux of the use of "honorary Black man" in this current disaster by the other players is that it cheapens the meaning of honor.

IWILLCHILLBLOOD
IWILLCHILLBLOOD

@DODGERFAIL2013 @Octavio of course you say zzzzz...there is no rational response from liberals like you when confronted with stinking hypocrisy, so you deflect and do stupid things and say things like you just said because you are irrational and moronic.

AprilBentley-robie
AprilBentley-robie

@Centennial @rentistoohigh sure it does. If Martin can yell racism then Incognito can say he was given orders by his boss and did as told to keep his job. If you do some research you will uncover that Martin considered Incognito to be his best friend. Other former players that have nothing to gain or lose have all said that Incognito treated Martin better than any other teammate. Meaning he was on a team that for there own reasons didn't like or care for Martin as a person. Not as a "black" person, but him personally.

Terryble
Terryble

@Jackie C. @Terryble how is this immature? it's a shame to be even talking about this. honorary black man? stupidest thing ive ever read. how is this even a story? it's insulting!