Posted November 03, 2013

Richie Incognito wants his ‘name cleared’ in Jonathan Martin situation

AFC East, Miami Dolphins
Richie Incognito made the Pro Bowl last season, but has been surrounded by controversy this season.

Richie Incognito was a Pro Bowler in 2012, but has been mired in controversy this year. (Marc Serota/Getty Images)

In a statement released Sunday, the Miami Dolphins expressed their continued support for tackle Jonathan Martin while downplaying the rumor that bullying from his teammates led Martin to take a sudden leave of absence.

“Our primary concern for Jonathan is his overall health and well-being,” part of the statement read. “As an organization, we take any accusations of player misconduct seriously. The notion of bullying is based on speculation and has not been presented to us as a concern from Jonathan or anyone else internally. The reports that the NFLPA is investigating our players are inaccurate. Additionally, the NFL offered its assistance during this time, which we appreciated and gladly accepted. We will continue to make Jonathan’s health and well-being a focus as we do with all of our players.”

Martin walked out on the team Monday, then reportedly sought mental health counseling. There has been no indication for when Martin will return to the Dolphins.

Multiple reports indicated that an incident in the team cafeteria led to his departure. According to FOXSports’ Alex Marvez, Martin had been the subject of “persistent bullying and teasing from some teammates that has plagued him since joining Miami as a 2012 second-round draft choice.” Meanwhile, ESPN reported that the NFLPA was reviewing guard Richie Incognito’s role in that alleged “bullying” of Martin.

The NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported that while the NFLPA “has not launched an investigation,” it is in “information gathering mode,” so further examination may be forthcoming.

Even so, moments after the Dolphins put out their statement Sunday, Incognito took to Twitter to express his outrage over that ESPN report.

ESPN then issued another report by Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter, this one stating that Martin “has not filed a formal complaint because he fears retribution, primarily from Incognito.” Martin, according to ESPN, reluctantly provided $15,000 to Incognito to help fund a Las Vegas trip for some Dolphins players, “fearing the consequences if he did not hand over the money.”

The Miami Herald‘s Adam Beasley added more details about a possible rift in the Dolphins’ locker room. Beasley wrote that younger Miami players “are under pressure” to fund excursions for veteran players — Beasley cited a recent team dinner in which a rookie reportedly was given the $30,000 tab, which amounts to about 7.5 percent of the rookie minimum salary of $400K.

Will Davis, a third-round pick of the Dolphins last April, disputed that a single rookie had to pick up that check:

Sans Martin, the Dolphins beat the Bengals on Thursday night. They play again next Monday at Tampa Bay, and there currently is no reason to believe that Martin will be back for that game. The Dolphins could place him on the reserve/non-football illness list shortly.

83 comments
TerrellTaylor
TerrellTaylor

Just because you play a violent contact sport, it doesn't mean you have to act like an animal off the field. You have murderers, sociopaths, gang members, rapist and child molesters moonlighting as football players and coaches. That's why I quit playing football and I now despise it. There are too many nut jobs that use football as an outlet for their violent tendencies. 

goldengophersfan
goldengophersfan

Okay, I know this guy is a jerk, but it seems that he is guilty with only speculation and the evidence. So far there has been no proof of any thing, just speculations.. where are the text's, the voice mails?. any one can cry that someone hurt my little feelers and cry to momma. This is football, not no contact badminton. Show the proof Martin either way. That way we can make a intelligent decision on whether he needs to be kicked or not. And for te record im not defending him, I simply want the truth, then I can hate on him.  

tazman2908
tazman2908

i think Richie incognitois an idiot and a bully who should be banned by the NFL for good

Mysticblue71
Mysticblue71

I think that the NFL should re-investigate the Antonio Smith penalty and ask Smith what Incognito did to incite his rage.  If you look at the original tape of the incident, you can see Incognito hold Smith's face mask, try to rip off his helmet and then punched him in the right clavicle area.  Smith ripping off Incognito's helmet appeared to be provoked.  I wonder if Incognito started calling him a F------ N-----.  Incognito seems to know those words really well!  I think he's a poor excuse for a pro-athlete...and a poor excuse for a human being!  Obviously, he's a bully and a racist...and it sounds like his father is too by his posts on the Dolphins fan forums under the nom de plume of "irdr1994".

synmax11
synmax11

Richie Incognito has all the characteristics of a sociopathic bully.  Incognito's history illustrates his pattern of abusive or destructive behaviour.  I know he got bounced out of U. Nebraska, U. Oregon and the St Louis Rams for his antics. Incognito is a talented player, as is attested by his pro-bowl selection, but teams have overlooked too long his destructive behaviours.  

Incognito may have felt that he was "toughening up" Martin. but his abusive actions went too far. It's obvious that Incognito has no idea of what is proper and not proper behaviour.

Martin was placed in a difficult situation, his 1st year as a rookie, it was expected that he would have to deal with some hazing or ribbing. But this is Martin's 2nd year, he was not a rookie anymore and he was a starter - so there should be no acceptance of Incognito's abuse. What was Martin going to do? If he fights Incognito, that creates a negative vibe in the locker room, plus either one or both get physically hurt and when you are a professional athlete, you are only as good as your ability to play. If Martin jumped Incognito, I wouldn't have been surprised if the Dolphins dumped Martin as a trouble-maker and Incognito gets off blame free.  Martin's a smart kid, his mom's an attorney, so I'm sure she told him to accumulate evidence, get a lawyer and present the information to the Dolphins front office.

What Martin did was mature and responsible, what Incognito's done is immature, abusive and destructive.  Incognito is poison in the locker room and he has a pattern of these actions. Incognito refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his actions and that makes him a team destroyer.

The Dolphins should let that snake go.

MARY13
MARY13

What's Incognito's  real name?   Maybe  Lil' B*tch.......

MARY13
MARY13

They should do a re-make of MEAN GIRLS.   Incognito can play the main character and the rest of the cast remain adolescent girls.

He'd be great.


jeffr85392
jeffr85392

He wants his name cleared? Yeah, well, people in hell want ice water.

stephen50
stephen50

Incognito makes a name for himself ...... prophetic to say the least.

MUTHA FUCKA JONES
MUTHA FUCKA JONES

Riley Cooper called. He is very, very disgusted with Richie’s behavior. 

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

Quite apart from the bullying (which sounds more like extortion and racketeering to me), you have $30,000 dinners.

Even if the whole roster attends, that's still around $600 a head.  

No wonder jocks go broke soon after retiring.

PattyMeraz
PattyMeraz

R.I., you're a bully and that is SHAMEFUL!!

UkanCalmeAl
UkanCalmeAl

Incognito was a big big bully in highschool too......I went to h.s. with him in AZ.....HE WAS A BULLY THEN TOO.... He hit girls and wad a jerk to anyone smaller than him.

ChristopherAsh
ChristopherAsh

THERE are now text messages and voice mails....Incognito is gonna look real stupid when the tapes with him using the n word and threats are made public....

laraph21
laraph21

Booper and now Incocknito! Who's next? $MH

hollywood232
hollywood232

What a Joke, only it's not funny! Grown 300lbs men talking about bullying. Ingocnito man you need some anger management classes. Get some help bro. There is life after football it's called the real world. That pushing people around won't work out here playa! 


Merv
Merv

I just heard Ingocnito has been suspended from the Dolphins.

CodeHonor
CodeHonor

The guilty always screams the loudest, he did it.. too bad the bullying couldn't of been handled by the Coach, it's unprofessional.

TexasRicky
TexasRicky

Tell me this is made up!!! .. I wonder what guys like Lombardi, Tom Landry, or Bear Bryant would think about this "Story" ... #LotsOfGraveRolling 

Merv
Merv

Incognito isn't good enough to be a Big Man on the field, unless you are selecting the All Dirty Team.  He has to be a Big Man in the Locker Room instead.

Juicer, Dirtiest Player in the NFL, Bully and maybe an Extortionist.  No one has accused him of being a Good Football Player. 

Woodyswagon
Woodyswagon

So Little Ritchie responds to bullying accusations by threatening people.  You can't fix stupid.

BillAbendroth
BillAbendroth

Clear his good name?  Richie Incognito has been a complete POS his entire life.  The last time his name was "cleared" had to be when he was in utero ......

mike.russell
mike.russell

Richie Incognito and Jason Pierre-Paul read comic books together by flashlight under the bed covers, and giggle  a lot. 

BrentWolgamott
BrentWolgamott

What in the Sam Hell is going on in Miami?  Jesus...

jdane
jdane

Gee, reading Incognito's clear and reasoned tweets, who would ever suspect him of bullying?

Ed31
Ed31

Incognito has always been a dirty player and a loose cannon. He has probably been bullying people his entire life.  If the league finds evidence of him extorting money from other players through threats of violence he should be suspended for life.

Cool
Cool

In most thriving corporations, it is the people at the top, the ones who have been around and know the ropes, that take the new guys under their wing, buy them meals, give them advice... In failing organizations the top guys are abusing they system, manipulate the underlings in order to get what they want, and then yell and scream about how bad business is.    Sound familiar Dolphins?

me1
me1

Richie...in case you missed it...it was brought. You lost.

dirk.morocco
dirk.morocco

Why you.... you better stop calling me a bully, or I'll knock your block off!! 

(Makes fist, sticks it in his face, moves it back and forth.)



DontGetIt99
DontGetIt99

Love that a bully is sending threatening tweets - the jury rests your honor.  Where is the coaching staff in all this - the gambling trips to vegas and the 5 figure dinner checks?  It's a different world for these spoiled athletes.  I hope they bully themselves right off the team...

NEsports27
NEsports27

Tweets sound like Mr. Incognito should try going incognito.  "I want this, I want that, I hate all of you"; sounds like a man with a guilty conscience trying to cover it up with bluster

M as in Mancy
M as in Mancy

There are some great guys in the NFL who have integrated sports and teamwork into their character and make me love sports. But I don't understand why people expect "men" who have been coddled their entire lives to act like adults. People have been slobbering over these guys since they were in high school. Whether they are a Boettecher Scholar or have the IQ of a house plant, they got a full ride in college because they could ball. 

There's always going to be idiots who act like idiots because they can. The real problem is that the good veteran guys who are in their 30s with kids who should know better, didn't step in and stop it.

R3
R3

The Miami Dolphins sound like a team run by the mafia. Got a feeling this Incognito dude is a bad seed.

OnePass
OnePass

His tweets are bullying in nature.

The NFLPA needs to protect its members from this type of extortion.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

It's one thing to spend $30,000 of your own money on food and drink.  It's your money, you're entitled to spend it however you like.  

It's something else again to pressure someone else to do so in the name of "initiation" and "team building."  I'd call it "extortion."   Where are the alleged grown-ups from management? 

$30,000 for a team dinner?  Even if it's for the whole roster, that's still close to $600 a plate.

And people wonder why pro athletes go bust as soon as they retire.

lionoah
lionoah

If it is bullying, it won't get out. A professional sports team is of the tightest fraternities you will find anywhere. If Incognito is in fact a bully, only a truly brave soul will out him. Bully are by nature the leader of the pack, and professional athletes are generally pack mentality types anyway. Whoever spills the beans will be blackballed and his career will be ruined. WIll Davis? Bad move bro because you put your name out there and you will be the first one with someone knocking on his door to investigate.

That said, if it is going down like that somebody needs to shut these clowns down. Funny how bullies are just cowards who have nothing else to hide behind

MikeWhitworth
MikeWhitworth

As a Rams fan, I was thrilled when he left St. Louis. He was a punk and took stupid penalty after stupid penalty. The league will be much better after he is gone.

KevinDoucette
KevinDoucette

What a coward. It's bad enough to "bully" someone (even a grown man) but to play chicken after the fact is cowardice at it's best. Incognito is a useless human being. It's a shame that such a piece of trash of a person can make millions of dollars playing football. The world we live in.

mystafugee
mystafugee

According to the Miami Herald, the issue is veterans making rookies pay for their meals and nightlife.  Apparently one meal tab was $30,000.  If this is true about the veteran players, the Dolphins should clean house with these veterans.  Teams love talking about character and team chemistry so here's a good chance to show that you value it.  

JimKirkwood1
JimKirkwood1

Interesting article in SI about the baseball Cardinals reasons for success. One point prominently mentioned was that as soon as a player is promoted to the majors, he is made to feel as much a part of the organization as the veterans. Football has a tradition of hazing that apparently several teams are abandoning. If even part of what has been reported about Incognito is true, the NFL would be better off without him

James C
James C

Here is the simple answer. If he feels that he truly has done nothing wrong, file a lawsuit against ESPN and Schefter for the report. Let the courts decide who is correct and who is incorrect in all of this. I suspect this is all bluster by R.I because if it were to see the inside of a courtroom it would not go well for R.I. 


Now I do have to question the entire issue some. Is this player really so sensitive that what is said in a locker room or team function is hurting him so much he needs to leave the team for mental counseling? Is there something else going on with him that needs to be addressed more than the possible bullying by team mates. 


Before anyone decides to type without thinking and post the comment I'm sure will be coming along the lines of "how would you know what it's like? I was bullied almost constantly from the 1st grade until at least 8th grade and somewhat even in high school, so yes I do know exactly what it is like and I know there are ways of dealing with that don't involve making a huge scene and walking out on your employer. 

MikeyJoe
MikeyJoe

@UkanCalmeAl That's somewhat ironic because given how fat  this guy one would think he'd be a prime target ...

crashtx1
crashtx1

@hollywood232 Unfortunately for most players there is no life after football. Most are broke within five years, then the body finishes breaking down, then they can look forward to an early death.  Not much of a life.

MikeyJoe
MikeyJoe

@TexasRicky great point!  The gentlemen you referenced wouldn't let the hazing get out of hand...They also wouldn't accept supposed talent to trump team chemistry, so the likes of Deez Bryant and the spoiled a-holes that play today wouldn't exist in a Lombardi, Landry, Bear universe...standards have fallen...

KravenMoorehead1
KravenMoorehead1

@Cool Its true a good team takes rookies under their wings and teaches them the ropes and shows them how and when to work out and how to watch game tape and how to correct errors and after a lot of that the rookies are often happy to take their Mentors out to a very nice dinner. Only real jerks try to abuse this system although there have often been practical jokes where the guys order all kinds of crazy stuff but then helps pay for half of it after freaking the rookies out

Ebullient
Ebullient

@JimKirkwood1  In baseball they get hazed too, but not to such extremes.  It's more innocent stuff like filling their jock strap with jell-o or refusing to talk to a kid after he hits his first home run.  They don't stick guys with 5-digit dinner tabs.

fartinton
fartinton

@James C I imagine the bullied player was already under pretty significant stress

 just trying to keep his spot on the roster.

el80ne
el80ne

@James C You're making assumptions about his circumstances that you seem to be basing on your own circumstances. Maybe in your experience there were things you could have done that didn't cause a huge scene. But you have no idea what JM did to try and resolve the situation internally. He could have tried all the normal channels and failed. From trying to stick up for himself and getting repeatedly beaten down and getting it even worse, to trying to get management on board to reign in Incognito's predator bullying and them not taking him seriously, leading to worse ostracism. Leaving the team is an extreme and unprecedented measure and in spite of your professed history you seem all too willing to blame the victim here.

So why don't you share how you dealt with the situation that proved so effective for you that "didn't make a huge scene" and why you neglected to take those effective measures for 7+ years.

Bigtruth
Bigtruth

Well, incognito's tweets certainly don't help to project him as someone dersvant of the benefit of the doubt.

UkanCalmeAl
UkanCalmeAl

I went to highschool with incognito in AZ....He was a big time bully.