Posted September 16, 2013

Josh Freeman reportedly set to ask for trade out of Tampa Bay

NFC South, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Josh Freeman appears to have fallen out of favor with head coach Greg Schiano.

Josh Freeman appears to have fallen out of favor with head coach Greg Schiano. (Rich Graessle/Icon SMI)

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ QB situation appears to be nearing an ugly conclusion, with a CBSSports’ Jason La Canfora reporting Sunday that current starter Josh Freeman “is likely” to ask for a trade in the near future. The NFL’s trade deadline is on Oct. 29.

The relationship between Josh Freeman and coach Greg Schiano seemed to take a couple more steps in the wrong direction this week. Schiano revealed that Freeman overslept and missed a team meeting, with a separate report from the Tampa Bay Times stating that Freeman had earlier missed a team photo. That error on Freeman’s part came shortly after he lost the team captaincy that he held from 2010-12.

La Canfora added, though, that Tampa Bay’s issues may go beyond the Freeman-Schiano dynamic.

Furthermore, several executives on other clubs believe Schiano’s refusal to ever really endorse Freeman is an attempt to undermine general manager Mark Dominik, who drafted Freeman in the first round prior to Schiano’s arrival from Rutgers and who has also worked diligently to add talent to that roster in recent years. Many around the league believe Schiano would like to have full roster control as well, viewing Freeman — who threw for over 4,000 yards and nearly 30 touchdowns last year — as a pawn in a would-be power struggle.

Schiano was front and center on the Bucs’ decision to spend a third-round pick in April on Mike Glennon. The North Carolina State product is inching closer to the Tampa Bay starting job by the day, and would likely inherit it if Freeman was moved.

Finding a trade suitor for Freeman could prove difficult for the Buccaneers should they explore that option. Freeman’s impending free-agent status (he is set to hit the market after 2013) and a loaded 2014 draft class would make trading for a QB a tough sell.

Jacksonville stands out as the most obvious landing spot, as the Jaguars try to make do with a Blaine Gabbert-Chad Henne combo. But throwing in the towel on an underachieving Gabbert in favor of the inconsistent Freeman hardly feels like a substantial upgrade, even if Freeman has shown more flashes of potential than Gabbert during their NFL careers.

If Freeman does indeed ask for a trade, it would not be hard to understand why. The last thing he would want is to hit free agency after being benched for Glennon and labeled as the cause of a Tampa Bay regression in 2013.

This whole situation could change if Freeman and the Buccaneers get hot in the coming weeks. That possibility is more and more unlikely as the tension grows between Freeman and Schiano.

(Update: Freeman denied after the Bucs’ win over New Orleans on Sunday that he has asked for a trade, according to Pewter Report. “If its going behind the scenes I need a new camp,” Freeman said. “I’m focused on being a Buccaneer.”)

42 comments
GQue247
GQue247

Tell the Bucs to call Cleveland.  The folks running the circus up there are making ridiculous trades at the moment.  They may be willing to give Tampa the first round pick they got from the Colts in the T Richardson trade for Freeman.

btcvsolo
btcvsolo

Way off subject here, but does anyone else think 'fantasy' football seems a little...I dunno...out there?

Sounds like people with unrealized fantasies about being gangbanged by an entire football team in the locker room after the homecoming game. I don't have a problem with it if it's a chick, but men? Gross....

Spare me the hate replies...I don't respond to dissenting opinions...

Anaximenes1
Anaximenes1

maybe he can go to jacksonville---their QBs are terrible too

scott33785
scott33785

I am a bucs season ticket older for 15 years ,  and fan for much longer.  I would prefer to see the coach go rather than freeman.   I think they should stip schiano of all offensive repsonsibilites.  Let freeman audible and scramble and then let's see.

CCGomez
CCGomez

Come my Jags....trade for this guy. I bet he is better than BG and Henne combine!!

RobertSmith
RobertSmith

Freeman is in his fifth season as a mediocre QB no matter what rating system you use.  He looks good at times, but shows no sign of becoming a consistent player.  Schiano can't waste too many years with a mediocre QB in a QB-driven league.  Freeman needs to wake up, step up and start performing.

Joshua W
Joshua W

Someone should tell Freeman that the Bucs lost to New Orleans

PaulBishop
PaulBishop

Just funny how the NFL works. Raheem Morris wins 10 games then the next year they have a ton of injuries and lose guys in FA. He gets fired because the team is undisciplined. I comes Schiano with no NFL experience and he is supposed to snap his fingers and the team will be disciplined. This team is poorly coached and ill-prepared. You bring in a guy that wasn't as qualified as the guy you let go and now you want to release disparaging info to the media about the young black qb. Sounds like the situation in Tenn. to me. You can say I am playing the race card. Well yes I am. This doesn't happen to white quarterbacks and what happened to Raheem Morris doesn't happen to white coaches. Also very realey do you see a black guy hored without a ton of NFL experience.

JohnMcCarthy23
JohnMcCarthy23

Even if Schiano is fired tomorrow (which he won't be) nobody on the staff would "turn around" Josh Freeman at this point. It wouldn't be a midseason outside hire and nobody on the current staff would be able to make drastic in season playbook changes. Freeman has potential, he could be turned around under the right coach IMO, maybe he should sign with a guy like Jim Harbaugh or Andy Reid for a year, get coached up and then strike it big a year later.

Bully
Bully

Pssst .. Schiano, I hear Timmy is a free agent.

NoQNoSuperBowl
NoQNoSuperBowl

Mediocre QB, lousy coach in over his head and a franchise without direction. Same old same old in Tampa.

gmrk
gmrk

Freeman is a erratic thrower and hard to teach foot/body positions and all that tinkering has left a low confident player.   The two losses are the whole team's fault.  One player on defense vs Jets got a personal foul penalty against their QB, allowed Jets into field goal range.   This loss vs New Orleans, again at 2:00 minutes, Bucs had the lead, 14 to 13.  Bucs coach Schiano calls three failed running plays and then after two time outs, the Buc's kicker misses a 47 yarder.   Plenty of time for Drew Brees to march on the Bucs defense and their kick won New Orleans the game.   Twice Buc's defense on the field at closing moments of the game and they lose. 

Since this is Freeman's 5th season he could be better.  But the team lacks quality players in other positions and it hurts the team to win games.  Play calling is robotic, if it only comes from the sidelines.  The QB must have ability to manage some plays that are stupid and change to another.  A 47 yard field goal should be made in the NFL but that isn't a easy kick distance at all.  

A decision has to be made, Freeman shouldn't be the only one punished.  Who says Schiano is a good NFL coach

Kristian
Kristian

Fire Schiano.  The guy's an idiot for many reasons but to get into a power struggle with your boss and let the team suck in the meantime?  Tampa really just needs to tell the dude to get the ef out. 

randomdeletion
randomdeletion

Man, Schiano is an idiot.  He is totally losing the team.  0-2 and it isn't getting better from here.

Steve Phillips
Steve Phillips

Maybe he'll fit in with the 40whiners? Missing team meetings, picture session, basically being a pain in the backside? Dump him he is 0-2 with what should be a really good team.

R8rsFan4Lyf
R8rsFan4Lyf

@Mark112 I do n't know if Doug Williams was really the top QB. Steve Deberg did a pretty decent job as well as Vinnie Testeverde despite all the interceptions.  It is really a toss up. The Bucs don't really have a great history at the position. That could have been different had Steve Young stayed there.

Mark112
Mark112

Doug Williams remains as the top QB in Tampa Bay history.

HunterBishop
HunterBishop

Freeman has the ability to be a pretty good QB, I think. Schiano is not doing anyone any favors with his actions. 

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Freeman hasn't been much, true, but I expect to see a lot of guys wanting out of Tampa Bay. Schiano is a terrible coach.  The Bucs are going backwards and it's not all the quarterback's fault.  

Chris10
Chris10

who in heck would trade for him?  just what every NFL team needs another average at best qb

WilyCoyoteSuperGenius
WilyCoyoteSuperGenius

Isn't this the Tampa team that gave Revis $16 million a season because they were just one cornerback from being a Super Bowl contender? As I wrote when that insanity went down - the Bucs are a case study in dysfunctional football organizations.

HarshRealities
HarshRealities

Trade him now while you can get something for him. The Bucs are not going to make it to the playoff this year so they might as well trade Freeman and put Glennon in to get some playing experience.

Charles38
Charles38

A trade !!!  Who wants him.. Hes about to be cut  !!

j7apple
j7apple

@GQue247  No No the Jets , thats the 3 Ring he wants to go to lol

donald5
donald5

@PaulBishop And FYI, Greg Schiano had 3 years in the NFL as and assistant before he had TEN YEARS as a head coach in college.  Guess what his job was with the Bears?  He was DB coach...THE SAME THING RAHEEM MORRIS WAS BEFORE HE WAS HIRED AS HEAD COACH.  Raheem was never even a defensive coordinator.  He got promoted straight up to head coach without ever being a coordinator or a head coach anywhere. Get your facts straight.  And white coaches get fired all the time when their only sin is that their players were injured.  

And when Kevin Sumlin gets hired next year without any NFL head coaching experience, you will have to lose another line of your bitter race argument.

donald5
donald5

@PaulBishop I stopped reading when I read "young black QB".  I can imagine how the rest of it would go.

Voiceover310
Voiceover310

@JohnMcCarthy23 I admire your optimism! However, Freeman needs to go! I was at the game yesterday and he looked horrible! He doesn't scramble,he doesn't make the big plays when they are needed, and the guy has an attitude problem. The bucs have a tailgate/kickoff party before every game and it is right next to the players parking lot and entrance. It is expensive to get into unless you are a season ticket holder with privileges. Little kids yesterday waited in the hot Florida weather for him yesterday and he didn't even give them the time of day. This little girl was heart broken and her father was angry. I understand the players don't have to sign anything for fans if they don't want to but given the fact that the bucs aren't a very good team and people remain loyal to them should at least warrant some kind of acknowledgement from Freeman. There are plenty of bucs fans who still believe in him. I'm very impressed with the defense this year but unless something drastically changes on offense then the bucs are in for a very long season. If the defense was as bad as the offense then the score would of been 56-7 yesterday. 

Kristian
Kristian

@gmrk Schiano's a terrible NFL coach. When you have a team playing like this and in this kind of dysfunction, that's all on the coach. 

lovetopreach
lovetopreach

@R8rsFan4Lyf Yes, Doug Williams was a top QB. Anyone that could lead that sorry franchise to the NFC Championship game is a top QB. The mistake he made was going to the USFL. But, he proved with Washington that he was indeed a top talent.

RobertSmith
RobertSmith

@Mark112 Williams was 33-33-1 with a 47% completion percentage for the Bucs.  Dilfer was 38-38 and completed 55%.  Testaverde 24-48 and 52%.  Brad Johnson 26-23 and 62% while winning a Super Bowl.

Bottom line -- Tampa Bay has NEVER had a good QB.  Being the "top QB in Tampa Bay history" is a matter of semantics and a very low bar.  

eddie767
eddie767

@HunterBishop Schiano doesn't even let him audible out of plays. Most ppl look at his qb ratings,which are avg.,but he had no support from HC like you said. Also,if teammates vote for captains why is Schiano allowed to count votes by himself? When players complained,he threatened them with being released. The only reason he has this job is Belichich,who wouldn't even hire him. 

riley8
riley8

@HunterBishop This is his 4th season and his QB rating is around 78%.  Organizations put up with the late for meetings, missing team photos, etc when you produce.  78% ain't cutting it in the new pass always NFL.  He is an average QB at best.  Couple that with a bad team philosophy and he'll be holding a clipboard for the rest of his days.

Kristian
Kristian

@Chris10 Probably the only teams that could use him over what they currently have are the Browns and Jaguars but this is also a really good QB draft coming up and I'm sure that the Jags have their sites on Bridgewater and the Browns are eyeing one of the top guys too.  Best they could hope for is a 7th round pick and their name in the paper. 

I think they should just fire Schiano and see what the new coach can get out of Freeman this season. 

Sportsfan18
Sportsfan18

@Chris10 You're being generous too...!  

His career QB rating is less than 79. In the 2010, 2011 and 2012 NFL seasons there were around 21 to 24 QB's with a better QB rating than this.

His career completion percentage is less than 59%.  In the past 3 NFL seasons, there were around 20 to 23 QB's with a higher completion percentage than this.


But is NOT lost.  He did rank in the TOP five in each of the last two seasons for having thrown the MOST interceptions.  He threw the 2nd most INT's in the 2011 season.


PaulBishop
PaulBishop

@donald5 @PaulBishop  

Point made. Sure white coaches get hired and fired all of the time but I don't see them getting the shaft like Morris. They are given every chance to get it right. Morris was treated unfairly period. Secondly ten years at the college level doesn't trump a 10-6 record in the Pros. The college coaches fail miserably more time than not. 

John302
John302

@Voiceover310 @JohnMcCarthy23 He doesn't scramble.  This is spot on.  He sits in the pocket and gets sacked for the strip fumble all too often.  He was VERY effective in 2010 when he was scrambling.  I just feel like he doesn't study himself at all.

Voiceover310
Voiceover310

Defense played great yesterday. Solid for 3 3/4 of the game. lol that last drive by Brees was great if you are a Saints fan! And there were plenty of Saints fans at the game yesterday. I got so hammered during the storm delay that I was having fun regardless of the outcome. 

RobertSmith
RobertSmith

@lovetopreach Doug Willimas had a career record of 38-42-1 as a starter and completed only 49% of his passes.  He had a few memorable games, but he was NOT a "top QB" by any reasonable measure.