Posted July 26, 2013

Can Seahawks survive a Percy Harvin injury? Sure, but …

Minnesota Vikings, NFC West, Seattle Seahawks
Percy Harvin has averaged 11.8 yards per catch and 6.4 yards per rush over the course of his 54-game career. (Ted S. Warren/AP)

Percy Harvin has averaged 11.8 yards per catch and 6.4 yards per rush over the course of his 54-game career. (Ted S. Warren/AP)

After the Seahawks traded for Percy Harvin in March, Pete Carroll made sure to emphasize that Harvin would be just one piece of a talented receiving corps; that Harvin “would mix with Golden Tate and Sidney Rice and Doug Baldwin”, as Carroll said during a press conference to announce Harvin’s arrival.

And yet …

“He is such a threat,” Carroll said during that same press conference, a few months back. “He’s just a gifted ballplayer. He feels the game so well. … It’s a tremendous spread of talent that he brings to our club. We will get the ball in his hands a number of ways.”

This was more than just a shot-in-dark move for the Seahawks. As with MLB teams that will spend the next week hunting for a top-flight starting pitcher or an elite bat, Seattle made the Harvin trade with the belief that he could get the team over the top, both in the NFC West and in the Super Bowl race.

For all their depth at receiver, Seattle managed just two touchdowns of longer than 40 yards from that position in 2012, one each by Doug Baldwin and Sidney Rice. The team’s longest pass play of the season, a 67-yarder, came courtesy of tight end Anthony McCoy. Quarterback Russell Wilson and a creative offense helped move the Seahawks into the NFL’s upper-echelon, but there was a distinct lack of game-breaking ability on the roster.

Harvin was supposed to change all that. Heck, he still may change all that, despite reports Thursday of Harvin possibly requiring surgery for a torn labrum in his hip.

Seattle signed Harvin to a six-year, $67 million contract (with $25 million guaranteed) in the immediate aftermath of the trade for him. Had there been any hesitation over Harvin’s fit in this offense or his health or his approach to the game, the Seahawks no doubt would have held off on that commitment. They likely would have avoided the trade in the first place, too.

Any minor hesitation they may have had, though, was washed away by the ocean of possibilities Harvin created, on paper, for Seattle’s offense. Not only did Harvin theoretically upgrade the passing attack, he added another weapon for Seattle’s option run game, alongside Wilson, Marshawn Lynch and rookie Christine Michael. He was being considered as a return man, as well, a role in which he thrived during his time with Minnesota.

Which offensive player would step up, aside from Lynch, was a bit of a game-to-game mystery for Seattle in 2012. Harvin, on the other hand, produced at least 100 total yards in 34 of 54 games in his Vikings career; he had 50-plus combined yards rushing and receiving in 50 of those outings. When he was on the field, few players in the NFL were as consistent a headache for opposing defenses as Harvin.

Therein lies the rub — when he was on the field. Even though Carroll and GM John Schneider insisted that they had no concerns about Harvin’s prior medical issues, that was the one variable that threatened to turn this trade into a bust for Seattle.

And make no mistake: Should Harvin have to go under the knife and/or find himself sidelined for an extended period of time, Seattle’s chances of capturing the Vince Lombardi Trophy this season diminish. Remember, the Seahawks were 8-0 at home last season and 3-5 on the road. Making the playoffs alone may not be enough, then. This Seattle team wants for all the world to get to the postseason and have the NFC road travel through CenturyLink Field.

Can the Seahawks accomplish those goals without Harvin’s assistance? Sure. This was a very good team last year, and it should be again.

Harvin, however, could be the catalyst for a jump from “very good” to “great.” The Seahawks knew that when they traded for him, and it’s precisely why the entire franchise is holding its breath right now.

30 comments
HectorBaboso
HectorBaboso

Jimmy Crack Corn And I Don't Care!!!  Sing Along Folks!!!!

yadda71
yadda71 like.author.displayName 1 Like

Harvin is a luxury pick. Watch Golden Tate dominate this year. Seattle losing a player they did not have last year or San Fran losing Crabtree? Which injury impacts their team more? I don't care if Harvin misses half the season. He will be there for the playoff run.

djs425
djs425

@yadda71 Yep. Who the hell is Krapernick gonna throw too besides Boldin and Davis?! No one. Harvin is a luxury. Glad we were able to have that luxury. Still....Worst case scenario and PH misses games or the year, this team is utterly loaded everywhere and will still win games. Instead of winning 35-3, it'll be 28-3 so a win is a win.

Mike26
Mike26

What this?  Harvin is injured (again)?  Harvin is resisting team management's directions regarding said injury?  Harvin isn't practicing?

Who could've seen THIS coming?!?!?!?

mystafugee
mystafugee

I love how everyone's proclaming Russell Wilson and RGIII, never mind the fact most upstart rookies fall back to earth their second  year but I won't go there.  Let's just bet the farm on best case scenarios.  

djs425
djs425

And where is this "injury prone" line coming from? The only extended time he's missed was last year. His first 3 years he played in 45 of 48 games. I believe he only missed a game here and there because of migraines which he is 100% over. I don't see a guy missing a chunk of games 1 YEAR as injury prone... Am I missing something?

marino.eccher
marino.eccher

@djs425 Injury-prone is the wrong term given his track record, but as a Vikings fan, I can tell you he always seemed to be a bit banged-up. He missed a fair amount of practice time and he took a lot of hits in the slot for a guy who isn't that big. 

I liked the way he played and I'll miss his production, but I was OK seeing him get paid elsewhere because I wasn't convinced he'd hold up long-term with his playing style. And I don't think I was the only Vikings fan who felt that way.

djs425
djs425

@marino.eccher @djs425 I could care less if a guy misses practice. We have many players who've missed practice today, and in the passed. Lynch NEVER practices, he shows up Sundays. Walter Jones (best LT ever) never practiced, his resume on Sundays speaks for itself. 

I can see why the Vikings fans didnt mind seeing him go. It wasnt a good fit, not that he wasnt good, just wasnt a good team for him. AP is the guy on the Vikings. If he left, you guys would shitttt a brick!



djs425
djs425

Harvin is a LUXURY on an already loaded team. With or without him, Seahawks are downright scary on both sides of the ball! While it would be disappointing IF Harvin missed time, the team won't miss a beat

ksleez
ksleez like.author.displayName 1 Like

@djs425 you sound like you're just reassuring yourself. 

djs425
djs425

@ksleez @djs425 reassuring myself? Nope, just stating facts. Fact is, Harvin is a luxury. This team is utterly loaded even without Harvin. I don't need to reassure myself, its fact

djs425
djs425

@ksleez @djs425 I know what a fact is, and stating fact doesnt make it an odd interpretation. If the Seahawks never traded for Harvin, they'd still be a favorite by many to win the division, NFC, SB. Thats a fact. Also a fact that the team had no problems scoring TD's last year. Another fact is the Seahawks have very good WR's besides Harvin. Also a fact this is a run first team. So excuse my odd interpretation of the facts, but I see it how it is.

ksleez
ksleez

@djs425 
 you have an odd interpretation of the definition of what a fact is. Harvin is a Luxury is a fact? ok chief.

DaveHanson
DaveHanson like.author.displayName 1 Like

2012 without Harvin +  a Rookie QB = 11-5 record, playoff win

2013 without Harvin + Veteran QB, improved pass rush, Marshawn Lynch, improved O Line, top tier receivers, best D Backfield in the NFL, young talented linebacker corp = Superbowl 

luvfoozball
luvfoozball like.author.displayName 1 Like

The Seagull fans squawked very loudly this offseason about how they were going to win multiple Superbowls now that they had Stretcher "ICU" Harvin on their team.

I guess they forgot that Harvin had played in all 16 games only once in his career and never even had a 1000 yard season yet.

NoQNoSuperBowl
NoQNoSuperBowl like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Trainer: Do you have a migraine Percy?

Harvin: No, that's next week's excuse.

dbum
dbum like.author.displayName 1 Like

@NoQNoSuperBowl have you ever had a migraine before? you feel like your gonna puke the whole time, persistent vertigo type symptoms (balance issues), and then theirs the piercing concentrated pain that feels as if you have metal bar stuck through your head. 

walking becomes an issue when you have migraines. playing football? forget about it. if hes been diagnosed by a doc for having migraines im gonna give him the benefit of the doubt that he actually has them. him playing while having a migraine would not do any team a favor.

JohnnyNacho
JohnnyNacho

Injury prone plus attitude issues = quick exit out of town

not sure what Seattle was thinking giving this guy a massive deal like this.

djs425
djs425

@JohnnyNacho He played 45 of 48 games his first 3 years. Where do people get this injury prone stuff?!

JohnnyNacho
JohnnyNacho

@djs425 @JohnnyNacho how many games did he play last year?  how many games will he play in this year?  you answered your own question when you add those numbers together

ksleez
ksleez

@djs425 @JohnnyNacho he was limited in a lot of those games though.


djs425
djs425

@ksleez @djs425 @JohnnyNacho If his stats were in a limited role, I'll take it! That makes him even more amazing, if true. I don't recall him leaving games though... He might have, if he has, not very much.

TS
TS like.author.displayName 1 Like

Harvin was outstanding as a Viking. Not sure what injuries he was prone to besides last year' s late season leg/ankle. Any other injuries he had, he played through every week. Yes he missed a few games last year due to the leg, and a couple due to migraines. He missed many more 'practices' as the result of migraines, but he played on sundays. This is not injury prone.

With this all said, he is reckless with his body, and the effects are showing. Vikings got some excellent mileage and a fantastic trade-in value just in time. Still sorry to see him go, but his attitude forced this trade.

luvfoozball
luvfoozball

@TS Yeah he is not injury prone... proved by the fact that he has played in all 16 games just once, right?

djs425
djs425

@luvfoozball @TS You miss a game or 2 doesnt mean you're injury prone.

djs425
djs425

@TS @djs425 @luvfoozball I guess AP is injury prone too! Hell, most NFL players are injury prone then! I have no idea where people are getting this injury stuff at with PH

TS
TS

@djs425 @luvfoozball @TS  My point exactly DJS. 

Statistically, AP has missed more regular season games (93% game active), percentage-wise than Percy (94% game active). 

TS
TS like.author.displayName 1 Like

@luvfoozball @TS 
2009 - 17 games (Playoffs)
2010 - 14 games,
2011 - 16 games, (Full season)
2012 - 9 games
Source: Elias Sports Bureau

You're right. He is sooo 
susceptible and prone to missing games. Other than last year, he played in nearly 94% of the regular season games. Percy was my favorite player, I was quite aware of his absence during his career. Talking heads only recall his absence of practicing due to migraines.

randomdeletion
randomdeletion like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

How many people are stupid enough to not understand the reality of a player that is injury prone?  Why in the world do you think the Vikings were willing to get rid of him?  The contract the Seahawks gave him was truly a stupid move.