Posted April 02, 2013

Carson Palmer era mercifully ends in Oakland

Arizona Cardinals, Oakland Raiders
Carson Palmer joins a Cardinals team that started four different QBs in 2012. (Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP)

Carson Palmer joins a Cardinals team that started four different QBs in 2012. (Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP)

Fresh off acquiring Matt Flynn, the Oakland Raiders dealt Carson Palmer to Arizona for a conditional seventh-rounder on Tuesday, putting the finishing touch on what stands as one of the most lopsided NFL trades in recent memory.

That 2011 move, which brought Palmer to a Raiders team that was in the thick of an AFC West race, wound up costing Oakland a 2012 first-round draft pick and 2013 second-rounder. The Raiders’ haul in return: an 8-16 record in games Palmer started, a missed shot at an AFC West title in ’12, a financial hit that will cost them through this season and, thanks to Arizona, that late pick.

So, in other words, it didn’t quite work out for Oakland.

The Raiders were 4-2 in 2011 when, after Jason Campbell suffered a season-ending injury, they completed a trade with Cincinnati for Palmer. After a shaky first two outings, Palmer and the Raiders hit a bit of a groove, running off three straight wins to get to 7-4.

The playoffs and a division title became real possibilities; the high price tag Oakland paid in the Palmer trade suddenly felt less cumbersome.

But it was all downhill from there. The Raiders finished that year by losing four of five games to cede the AFC West to Denver. Changes to the coaching staff and at GM coupled with a roster in flux then left the Raiders flailing last season — Palmer managed to throw for 4,000 yards, but the team plummeted to a 4-12 mark.

With Palmer due $13 million this coming season and another $15 million in 2014, Oakland had no choice but to go back to the drawing board.

The Cardinals, meanwhile, are hoping to pick up some of the pieces of Palmer’s career. They recently signed free-agent quarterback Drew Stanton, who looked as if he might get first crack at the starting QB job under new Arizona head coach Bruce Arians.

Instead, it appears that Stanton again will be relegated to a backup role behind Palmer, possibly with a rookie QB still to join the mix. Palmer has 121 career starts to Stanton’s four and, though he may not be an ideal fit for Arians’ offense behind a sieve-like offensive line, he should enter camp as the clear No. 1. On Monday, Peter King made the case that Palmer could find more success in Arizona than he did in Oakland.

It’s still a shift that is a bit hard to understand, especially as Arizona prepares to pay out a reported $8 million to Palmer in 2013. The Cardinals clearly have a multi-year rebuilding project ahead of them, especially with San Francisco and Seattle again leading Super Bowl contenders.

Where does a 33-year-old Palmer fit?

As with running back Rashard Mendenhall, the answer could be as a bridge-the-gap type of player. Arizona may not be convinced that Stanton nor any of the remaining free-agent QBs are long-term answers, so Palmer’s job now might be to hold down the fort for a year until a better solution comes along.

The expectations for Palmer in the desert certainly will pale in comparison to what Oakland asked of him. But there’s also no way that a Palmer-to-Arizona trade can backfire quite as spectacularly as that Raiders move did.

26 comments
fmfrijoles
fmfrijoles

If they don't fix that OL.....Palmer will last maybe 1 game....

BenHutto
BenHutto

A lot of things can be blamed on why the Raiders have played so poorly the last two seasons, but Carson Palmer is far from the main reason. Injuries (McFadden, O-Line, D-Line) have been a killer. They have made quite a few poor draft selections (given the limited number they had they couldn't afford to make those blunders), the constant state of change that was there coaching staff was harmful.

Palmer's first year in Oakland was a diaster, but coming in half-way through a season off his couch and starting a week later could only end poorly; especially with McFadden and Micheal Bush hurt.

Last year, Palemer played reasonably well with no dependable WR's and a non-exsistant running game. He was forced to throw too much because the Raiders were always behind and still threw less INTs than a lot of 'elite' QBs.

Is he franchise QB? Not at all... He is still a good QB on a decent team with weapons, however.

TheVon
TheVon

Best option of the remaining options for the Cards.  They had to give something to Fitz, otherwise I'm sure he'd be the one demanding a trade.

Wisconsin Death Trip
Wisconsin Death Trip

Will the "Sins of the Father" be lifted enough for the Raiders to be a viable team again ....... I don't see a Matt Hasselbeck strikes twice scenario here at all.

JayDuce
JayDuce

Welcome Larry Fitzgerald!  You're back to fantasy football relevance.  

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

You beat me to it, Brian. The Bengals will be laughing up their sleeve over this trade for years. Total disaster.

 

Palmer may have something left, but I doubt it. When he refused to play I lost all respect for him. I cannot wish him success.

BrianHu
BrianHu

Thank you, Hue Jackson, for the most embarrassing trade in NFL history. Cincy was so pleased with you for that trade they hired you! Let the rebuilding begin. At least next season the Raiders will be out of Al Davis' cap hell he put them in. Life-long Raiders fan, but these last 10 years have been trying, to put it mildly. These are the times when we can at least brag that we have the coolest uniforms and the hottest cheerleaders - oh and we still got three rings.

Cougarblue
Cougarblue

@BenHutto I can buy the excuse partically but it doesn't prove Palmer one way or the other and Oakland hasn't a monopoly on wasting high draft choices. Has any team had more top 6 picks that Arizona, (should go back to the Phoenix name, the rest of the state could care less if they moved to Anaheim) in toto, Palmer will have no OL help in AZ than he had in Oak, likely less, and fail badly. Why did they not clone Warner? There is no God in CardNULS headquarters. I love football but flew to every Bronco home and a few away games rather than go to one more Card disgrace. Getting Palmer won't change things.

Cougarblue
Cougarblue

@TheVon Agreed but this crisis didn't start in 2012, it's a series of blunders ,an OL that does no get better thru the draft, while Leinhart/Kolb setback has been terrible, tossing away your #2 WR to Baltimore, plenty of dumb moves leading to few options in 2013 and a draft with no slam dunk QB's

John4
John4

@Wisconsin Death Trip Wisconsin how's it going?

Cougarblue
Cougarblue

@Wisconsin Death Trip How an you take a team that plays on a baseball field seriously? The Niner's will have the classiest crib in the league, Raiders still playing in a pit. The curse is just gaining a second wind

Dustin Madlung
Dustin Madlung

 @JayDuce Palmer hasn't been anything other than an average quarterback since the last two years of his bengals career.

John4
John4

 @BrianHu i believe the most embarrassing trade in NFL history involved the Dallas Cowboys (who were not embarrassed with the trade) and the Minnesota Vikings (who, clearly were).  

stagger
stagger

 @BrianHu I can sympathize with you. Years ago, my teams (Saints) traded 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks for Steve Walsh. Steve Walsh! That trade with Dallas enabled them to build a dynasty while we remained irrelevant. Steve Walsh. Jeezus...

 

j7apple
j7apple

 @BrianHu lol.....you still living off the pride of 3 rings when the most recent one was 30 years ago..?.good grief....

swillyish
swillyish

 @Cougarblue  @TheVon If the Cards had spent ANY draft picks on the o-line in the past decade they would likely not be in rebuilding mode now.  But they chose to pass on several all-pro lineman so they could grab 2nd and 3rd tier WRs and RBs with their high picks.  Combine that with the Wisenhunt talent of screwing up QBs to the point of ruining their careers and you are right back in the running for the worst franchises in the NFL.

John4
John4

@Cougarblue will have. Please note that the Dallas Cowboys HAVE the classiest facility in the league.

Cougarblue
Cougarblue

@stagger @BrianHu Look at another cursed team the Bolts, fire Marty after he goes 12-4, Smith and Norv watched as the team died on the vine, like Nero and Rome. Rivers is a joke and they will never get a stadium. The Marty curse Lives On

j7apple
j7apple

 @stagger  @BrianHu Walsh? How about every pick in 1999 and a third in 2000 for Ricky Williams?...Ditka was nuts..Fired after that season...

BrianHu
BrianHu

When you've been beat down the past 10 years like the Raiders, what else do I got? Besides, how many other NFL teams have 3 SB?? Not many!

stagger
stagger

 @j7apple  @BrianHuTrue dat. I was just staying in the QB field. But, yeah... that sucked. Run Ricky Run.

 

j7apple
j7apple

 @BrianHu Just ribbing you..anyone who remained a fan with Davis at the helm has to be a true fan...better days ahead...cheers..