Posted March 01, 2013

Joe Flacco’s fairy tale continues with record-setting contract

Baltimore Ravens
Joe Flacco tossed 11 touchdowns and zero interceptions in the 2013 postseason. (John W. McDonough/SI)

Joe Flacco recorded 11 touchdown passes and zero interceptions in the 2013 postseason. (John W. McDonough/SI)

Joe Flacco, once his new contract with the Baltimore Ravens is finalized, will be the highest-paid player in NFL history.

Let that sink in for a moment.

As recently as Week 15 of this past season, when the Ravens were clobbered by the Broncos right after changing offensive coordinators, there was an army of doubters unconvinced that Flacco ever could get Baltimore over the top. Then the playoffs started and Flacco turned in one of the greatest runs in league history, taking down the Colts, Broncos, Patriots and 49ers in succession.

That’s postseason wins over Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Colin Kaepernick in succession, in case you’re keeping score — the No. 1 pick in 2012, two of the best QBs in league history and a talented youngster who helped usher in a new era of offense, respectively.

To the most incredible of extents, Flacco struck while the iron was hot. Had the Ravens lost, say, to the Colts in the wild-card round, Flacco, a pending free agent, might have been allowed to walk out of Baltimore. He certainly would not have been handed the reported six-year, $120.6 million contract he will receive, which bumps hm over top of Drew Brees’ five-year, $100 million deal.

After Flacco delivered a Vince Lombardi Trophy to Baltimore (and won a Super Bowl MVP award in the process), though, the Ravens had to bring him back.

It looked, for awhile, like it might require the franchise tag to do so — the non-exclusive tag, which would have prevented Flacco from negotiating with other teams, would have run Baltimore upwards of $19 million for 2013, with Flacco then potentially hitting free agency again in 2014.

Still to be revealed here is exactly how Flacco’s contract breaks down. Until we see the bonuses and guaranteed money involved, pinpointing the Ravens’ exact commitment is impossible.

Either way, an entirely new type of pressure awaits Flacco. No longer is he stuck proving that he can win the big game; instead, he’ll spend the next several seasons under the financial microscope, his naysayers now turning their attention to how he performs in relation to Manning, Brady and Aaron Rodgers — the latter may indeed soon sign an extension that surpasses Flacco’s deal.

Those quarterbacks, however, are generally accepted to be the cream of the crop. Flacco, even after his magical postseason, is not there in a lot of minds.

Is that fair? Maybe not, given how this past season ended. Does it matter? Nope not one iota.

Flacco laid down an absolute career hammer in the playoffs, rendering any discussion about his “elite” status obsolete. Maybe he’s not a Hall of Famer. Heck, maybe he’s not even the best quarterback in his division. But he was arguably the top player throughout the NFL’s postseason tournament, and he will be paid accordingly.

The turnaround for Flacco, from lightning rod of criticism to this moment, was swift and stunning. What happens from here will define the success of the Ravens’ all-in move, as well as Flacco’s lasting legacy.

92 comments
marcobear9
marcobear9

As in al the major sports, the owners are crying broke but they are the idiots paying unproven, over valued players stoopid money.

Dr. S
Dr. S

That is a tremendous amount of money for a man who will never get near the Super Bowl again

Brad9
Brad9

It's a 3 year deal.  No way they take a 29M cap hit in year 4.

 

And oh, by the way, the Ravens just saved about 13 million on the cap this year compared to what the exclusive tag would have cost, and 8 million on what the non-exclusive tag would have cost.

RS1022
RS1022

If Rahim Moore doesn't make a "Bill Buckner level" error, does Flacco come close to $20M per season... No way! Instead of Brees/Peyton money he gets Big Ben/Phillip Rivers money.

Kristian
Kristian

I still think it would have been much wiser to franchise tag him this year and see if he can continue his success next season. One of his biggest knocks is that he's inconsistent and streaky.  I don't see why you'd make him the highest paid player in the history of the league because one of his streaks came at a very good time.  Also, I don't think the right player won Superbowl MVP.  Jacoby Jones should have been that guy and the Ravens defense as a whole had as much or more to do with the unlikely playoff run.

mjpt
mjpt

I must admit that I am surprised by the Ravens. Without knowing EXACTLY how this deal breaks down, I would have thought they would have franchise tagged Flacco, pay 15m for the year and see how he plays. This way time is their best friend and they can build a sample spread that allows for blown matches that they can use as leverage against him next year. The only way that changes is if Flacco plays great again and Ravens have to eat a huge contract. I admire them for biting the bullet and following through on their guy. I think the elephant in the room is the Rodgers deal upcoming and the Ravens pre-empting that somewhat, if Flacco played great again, then they would be on the hook for at least 22m a year. Rodgers deal was, and always was, going to be the bigger deal. By sorting now, Ravens mitigate loss down the road and keep Falcco happy. Everyone makes out. Solid business and shows that Bisciotti is a man of his word.

MattMorgan
MattMorgan

I'm all for Players getting paid their fair share, but when you take a player that isn't even a top 10 player and make him the hgighest paid, it throws everything off. Like last year with Mario Wiliams becoming highest paid on defense. other then a 12th ranked in QB rating all his stats are 14th or higher Passing Yards 14th YPA 14th Comp 15th QBRating 12th TD's 16th Completion % 19th. He won because he was on a good team witha good defense. I would of let him test FA, and maybe even flirt with trading for Alex Smith, or even trade for him, he had a better season then Flacco. With that contract I don't see the Ravens doing much in FA.

 

jeremyvillano
jeremyvillano

Flacco should send Rahim Moore a thank you note and the most expensive Rolex on the market.

FreddieFunStuff
FreddieFunStuff

Well so much for a deep roster. Flacco is not a top 5 QB. Maybe somewhere in the 8-12 range I would say. He is not good enough to make poor supporting casts better, a la Peyton in Indy or Brady. You can't tie up that much cap in one guy who isn't transcendent. Same reason Megatron deserves megabucks and Mike Wallace doesn't. This looks like a huge mistake to me, and I hope the Ravens pay dearly for  it over the next several years. I'm a Niners fan, and they hurt my feelings. 

Mike115
Mike115

 @Scramble "If the Pats cut Brady after two years he makes 45 mil."

Get your facts straight before posting. Brady's extension is for "only" 3 yrs and 27 mil, but the 27 mil and the 45 mil for the next 2 yrs, meaning if Brady gets a career-ending injury in Preseason Week 1 all that cash in guaranteed.  As true NFL fans know, NFL contracts are not normally guaranteed as in MLB. 

 

Stop acting like the stereotypical general public as our Founding Fathers had feared hence the creation of the electoral system with the intention to keep fools like you in check. 

GD94134
GD94134

Geez Louise $120.6 for a flash in the pan! Next season Baltimore without Ray Lewis will be at the bottom of the NFL barrel.Spend while you can because the party will be over very shortly Joe Flacco....

3waystopsign
3waystopsign

 @Dr. S I'm no Baltimore fan, but I'm not sure how you can make that statement.  He's made the playoffs every year of his career so far, and we've all seen once you're in, anything can happen.  That is just a wild guess on your part that can't be backed up at this point in time.

Evan5
Evan5

 @RS1022 And If Lee Evans holds on to that TD last year against the Pats maybe he gets more...them's the breaks.

seanm929
seanm929

@Kristian How does the Ravens defense have such a huge reputation that people ignore the fact they were awful this past year. They got even worse in the post season. Give credit where it is due. Without Facco, Ravens don't win in Denver, New England, or in New Orleans. Jacoby Jones was not going to win MVP with 2 plays. They were awesome plays, but I just don't think they were going to give it to a part time WR and KR special teamer.

mjpt
mjpt

 @Kristian i agree, tagging seemed like the wiser option, but the team have cap issues and we do not know how it really breaks down finance wise. All NFL contracts are about the Guarantee and the two year value. Thats why I think they pay huge signing bonus like Brees did, Flacco gets his pay day, and the team can make a run on their other free agents. Ravens on offense have Jones who can stretch the D if they play close, Boldin who can go over middle if they play off and Rice who can keep the run going. Thats more than Brady has at the moment.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @mjpt Just a quick note, if they franchised him, another team could steal him away. I know there are 2 kinds of franchise tags. I think one is called exclusive. Anyway, if we paid him the exclusive tag, we would have had to pay 20 mil next year against the cap. I have read that the way his contract is scheduled, it will not be a big hit next year. I read it is back loaded.

Evan5
Evan5

 @MattMorgan Alex Smith has already been sent to KC.  So... what would you do then?

Evan5
Evan5

 @FreddieFunStuff Wasn't Megatron's team 6-10 last year?  And while we are correcting facts, how did Flacco not make the supporting cast better?  They had a mediocre defense, one pro bowler on offense (a guard), and won the Super Bowl.

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

 @Mike115  @Scramble Facts aren't important since they are basing their conclusions on fantasy football numbers. 

Scramble
Scramble

 @Mike115 Fact check: Here is the cap hit for the contract. And to answer comment number one-If injured the money is still guaranteed. If they release him at some point because of skill drop off, then the remaining years are over, but he is guaranteed all of the #30 million signing bonus and the salaries for each year he plays, soooo, if he is let go in two years he walks away with no less than $45 million, and of course the dead cap space stays with the Pats until the year 2018 2013: $13.8 million 2014: $14.8 million 2015: $13 million 2016: $14 million 2017: $15 million

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

 @GD94134 Five consecutive seasons with at least one playoff win, culminating in the Super Bowl, and you think that's a 'flash in the pan'. Seriously? Seriously?

Scramble
Scramble

 @GD94134 Losing Ray Lewis probably helps the defense. If Flacco has an average season like he did last year the players that got us there may be gone.

SportPage
SportPage

 @3waystopsign  @Dr. S Seems to me it's a projection, based on the fact that Flacco has made it to the Super Bowl once in 5 tries. And wouldn't have been there this year if a certain Bronco DB didn't have one of the most epic blunders ever.

Richard Long
Richard Long

 @Evan5  @RS1022  Agree Evan5.  Moore's blunder cost Ozzie twice what he wanted to sign Flacco for. 

Scramble
Scramble

 @Evan5  @RS1022 The bad thing is he actually caught the ball and got both feet down. The NFL wouldn't review the play because they wanted a Pats/Giants rematch. For that to happen they had to get the Pats into the Super bowl first. If Joe would have led Evans away from the defender like Ben did with Holmes in the super bowl you take the game out of the officials and NFL's hands. Everyone wants to blame Evans, but it wasn't his fault.

Scramble
Scramble

 @seanm929  @Kristian Without the revamped offensive line the Ravens don't win in Denver. With that much time even Sanchez could win. The Ravens beat Denver because of two things, Denver scored too quick twice on run backs and helped preserve the Ravens defense which kept Manning off the field preventing him from eating up the clock on long scoring drives. Except for McKinnie and Birk, who both played lights out, the Ravens offense is young and very fast. The second reason was the Keystone Cops play of the Broncos defense of Joe's Hail Mary Rainbow.

 

The Ravens won the AFC title game because Gronk was out with a broken arm and the Patriots lost three starters to injuries during the game. Joe did almost nothing in the first half until Talib got hurt.

 

They won the super bowl because Jacoby had two incredible touchdowns and the Niners defense crapped the bed both times. Where was Flacco in the second half when the Ravens needed him to put the the pedal to the metal. Other than the heave ho go fetch incredible catch by Boldin Joe didn't exist. The Ravens defense had just enough gas left in the tank the stop an inexperienced quarterback four downs inside the ten.

 

I'm a Ravens fan and Joe screwed everyone with his unearned greed.

mjpt
mjpt

 @BrianButler thanks for that, I needed that information. It all makes sense now Ravens have Cap issues and this deal now seems cap friendly. I stated earlier the other option- that he could have got a huge signing bonus which get pro rated over 5 years eg 40m which means 8m against cap (40/5) this helps team if they want to go and get their other free agents..

MattMorgan
MattMorgan

 @Evan5

 I would traded before KC got him.  Few draft picks, have an extra 13 mil to spend, and upgrade the QB. Also until the trade is made official it isn't a done deal.

 

GD94134
GD94134

@Scramble I just don't see $120.6 when I watch Flacco play period.Giving up the bank to Flacco leaves very little in the bank for the rest guaranteed.Thats all I'm say'in man.....

John64
John64

 @Scramble  Are you high? Do you watch NFL football? Remember the Calvin Johnson catch in the end zone vs the Bears a couple years ago? Go watch that and tell me that wasn't a catch. It was ruled incomplete. Nowadays, you not only need to get both feet down in bounds with the ball secured, you need to walk it back to the bench and hand it to the official with a bow on it. Evans did not catch that pass.

Evan5
Evan5

 @Scramble  Actually the rules have changed.  You need to continue the catch and make a "secondary move" in the endzone. And if you are tackled afterwards you need to hold on as well. 

 

The biggest example is when Megatron had a touchdown overturned and cost his team a game against the Bears last year. 

 

Scramble
Scramble

 @Evan5 He caught the ball and got both feet down. Under current rules that is a touchdown.

Evan5
Evan5

 @Scramble  I disagree, it was an excellent pass by Flacco and Evans just didn't secure it. I mean it was right in his hands and Evans wasn't in any danger of being hit hard, what else is the pass supposed to do?  And do you think Bolden in a million years lets some unknown corner back knock it out of his hands after getting a full grasp on it?  Or Pitta?  Or really any solid receiver?

 

I'm not even going to touch the conspiracy stuff.  I believe the call was correct under the current rules.

seanm929
seanm929

@SportPage @Scramble @Kristian whether it was 3 games or not, it was a record setting post season. My point is that a lucky TD is one thing, but for anyone to say his post season was just luck and bad defense is just being a hater. You don't throw 11 TDs with no INTs or fumbles in a post season against the best left in the NFL with luck.

seanm929
seanm929

@SportPage Most road playoff wins for a QB in NFL history, tied most TDs in 1 post season with Montana and Warner and ties most TDs with no INTs in a post season with Montana.

seanm929
seanm929

@rainman @seanm929 @Scramble @Kristian and Montana just got lucky with "the catch", and Kurt Warner just got lucky with the TD throw to Bruce. Come on.

SportPage
SportPage

 @seanm929  @Scramble  @Kristian While Flacco did have a golden postseason, I don't recall any actual records set.

 

And if you're referring to his 11 TD, 0 Int performance, that did match Montana's postseason, but Montana also did that in 3 games, not 4.

rainman
rainman

 @seanm929  @Scramble  @Kristian

 Baltimore will rue the day he signed that deal, he is not and will never be a "elite" QB.

Wait until next yr. everyone will see that he is an overpaid QB. I have no skin in this game but he got sh*& lucky in denver and S.B

seanm929
seanm929

@Scramble @Kristian Your just a Flacco hater. If he can have a record setting post season and you want to credit everyone else, whatever. Nothing will change your mind. Since he is around for the next 6 years maybe you should go root for some other team.

mjpt
mjpt

 @BrianButler all good . I think the team always has the ability to match competing offers. This is key. Franchise tag orignally was seen as protecting player but one can see how it really is a leverage tool for management. I saw this where the teams job is to control cap. Player job is to get up front cash and guarantee. This why the Brady deal in NE made both parties happy but was not the "brady giving money away" deal that it was made out..

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @mjpt I wish I could remember the actual terms. I know that one of the tags was for around 14.75 million but on that tag he could be stolen away by another teams offer. On the exclusive, as i said earlier, it was for 20 mil but he could not be stolen. Oh, but if a team did take him for that 14.75, we would have gotten 2 compensatory 1st round picks from that team?? Or something like that which of course could deter teams from making an offer. I hope i am making sense!!!

Evan5
Evan5

 @MattMorgan Would require a 1st round pick since KC's pick is #1 or #2 of the second round.  And it makes Torrey Smith much less effective, Smith can't throw deep very well.  

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @Scramble  Joe Flacco is Elvis Grbac?   Now you are going deep into your bag of tricks in an attempt to justify your point.   Face it, Joe Flacco got paid, whether you agree with it or not.   Now you can spend the next few years yelling "I told you so" every time the guy throws an incomplete pass.

Scramble
Scramble

 @MattMorgan  @JoeCabot The team screwed up signing Elvis Grbac. He was a product of the Chiefs organization. When Jamal Lewis went down in pre season and we didn't have Priest Holmes Grbac was pretty much toast. Same thing that would happen to Flacco in a Rice less check down offense.

Evan5
Evan5

 @MattMorgan  @BrianButler Yes, team has never had a Super Bowl winning QB play in a game for them.  Dilfer never played a snap for the team with that on his resume'.

MattMorgan
MattMorgan

 @JoeCabot

 Comes down to is it the QB that made them better, or is it the team? With middle of the pack stats, I lean towards the team. Now will the team be able to stay together with that big of a contract? As I said before, the team won a Superbowl with Trent Dilfer, then let him walk. Yes Flacco is a lot better, but not a top 10 QB, so he shouldn't be so overly paid. You pay someone that is probably a number 13 or 14 QB number one money and you over pay him. Yes reward him for the Superbowl win, maybe pay him in the top 10, but number 1? I'm glad it isn't my team this time over paying by so much.  

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @MattMorgan  @Evan5 I said the same thing Matt. What he was saying was a SB winning QB the next season. His point being that you are going to have to pay a young SB MVP QB. I do agree with that even though I think Flacco gets way too much credit for our wins. Receivers certainly make him look good as did Jacoby Jones big plays and Rices big plays all year long.

MattMorgan
MattMorgan

 @Evan5  @BrianButler

 First Super Bowl winning QB in franchise History, what about 2001?

XXXV 2001 Baltimore New York Giants 34-7. They won by a pretty big margin with Trent Dilfer. Though Flacco is a better QB then Dilfer, he wasn't worth paying a lot to keep, and neither was Flacco, Alex Smith would of been an ungrade, and KC is going to pay him $8.5 mil. Flacco should of been paid like $12 to 14 mil tops.

 

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @Evan5  @JoeCabot Very good. I actually live in Bel Air. Well you know then that the talk shows are very divided about Joe. I actually do like him and hopefully he gets more consistent. if he does, he will be a winner for a very long time.

mjpt
mjpt

 @BrianButler  @Evan5  @JoeCabot don't we have see how the deal breaks down? If he has a huge signing (30-40m) bonus they can pro rate the bonus that will allow for keeping Boldin for 1-2 years. At moment Ravens have more than the Patriots on offense with stretch WR , Over middle WR and RB thats top class. I bet Brady wishes he had those elements..

Evan5
Evan5

 @BrianButler  @JoeCabot I'm from Baltimore.  That's my team.  I'm wearing the championship t-shirt right now.  But it's not like I agree with everything they do.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @MattMorgan  Isn't the NFL a bottom line business, with that bottom line being wins and championships?   Seems that Joe Flacco-led teams have done that as well or better than most since he entered the league.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @Evan5  @JoeCabot More good points that all QB's need time. I will be curious to see how it all plays out especially if we lose some key players. BTW, who is your favorite team?

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @JoeCabot I think most , if not all, would have been very pissed. Once again, he can have great games. For me, I think it is just too much money to pay especially if the Ravens lose some great players. lets be honest, do the Ravens win without Jacoby Jones or Anquan Boldin? If Boldin leaves, it will be a very big loss.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @BrianButler  What if the Ravens had decided to play hardball with the guy & he ended up leaving?   What would the reaction in Baltimore be to that scenario?

Evan5
Evan5

 @BrianButler  @JoeCabot I've seen the bad games as well.  I really think Flacco needs excellent line play to do well.  He didn't get it most of this year as Oher struggled at left tackle and KO struggled on the right side.  When they shifted things around and he had enough time he shined.

 

However to me that's not unusual.  Manning needs time, Brady needs time, Rodgers needs time.   Flacco might need a little more than those guys, but when he got it he delivered.  And again there is no option to get any of those other guys or to pay him less.  So I think this is the best path.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @JoeCabot I agree. her in Baltimore it is big news because it may not allow us to keep Boldin, Reed, Leach and others. Just listen to the talk shows, he is loved by many and not so much by others. he can be a joy to watch and some times a train wreck to watch. If you feel like wasting time, go back and look at some of his numbers during the year. There were a few games where he had single digit QB ratings in a half.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @Evan5  @JoeCabot I respect your opinion , but I dont think we should just forget about those games against KC, Cleveland, Pittsburgh with a 3rd string QB, San Diego , the first game against Denver, etc. His contract is based on his entire body of work and not just a fantastic playoff run. Obviously since I live in Baltimore, I watch every minute of every game. I admit, I have seen some great games from him and I have seen some absolutely pathetic performances.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @BrianButler The economics of the NFL said that the guy was going to get paid.  Re the KC game, every game is a potential bad game and/or loss in the NFL.  Basically the same KC team ended GB's unbeaten season the previous year.  Oh, and if Joe Flacco was not getting enough blame for Ravens' losses in the past, this contract now guarantees that the yelling and screaming will be ratcheted up for every bad play or drive, let alone a loss.  I just think that it is cool when anyone in any line of work gets a big fat payday like this one.  Don't know why it has aggravated so many football fans. Actually I do know but am not opening up that political can of worms.

Evan5
Evan5

 @BrianButler  @JoeCabot I'd say Flacco got the blame for almost every loss the last 5 years , except the AFC championship where he outplayed Brady and made the throw that should have won the game.  I'd also say he didn't have excellent line play until the playoffs this year.  And when he did he excelled.

 

There are only 7 teams with Super Bowl winning QBs.  The Ravens have one of them.  I'd worry less about a game against KC and care more about the performance against Denver, New England and San Francisco.  It's his 5th year, this is when this should have happened if it's going to happen again.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @JoeCabot Honestly Joe, I could go either way with it. Sometimes he looks great and other times he cant even score against teams like KC.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @BrianButler Every QB in the league gets an inordinate amount of blame when his team loses.  I don't see any more BAL games than any other team, but regardless of the style points, Joe Flacco wins games.  By the reaction here, I am sure that he gets plenty of blame when the Ravens lose - hell just look at how many people are yelling at him here, just for winning games and getting a fat contract.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @Evan5 I guess I misunderstood your post about having a Super Bowl winning QB. And you are right, those teams and others would have paid that amount. I just can not forget about all of his horrible games. With Rodgers and the rest, they may win and lose, but they have much better consistency. Even a few years ago when we beat the Patriots in the playoffs, Joe had 4 completions the entire game!! But, sometimes he looks great!!! I get it but I just dont agree with it.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @JoeCabot Well, thankfully I do not have to make those decisions. I just dont see him having that high of a value. Let me ask you, do you watch all of the Ravens games? He gets a lot of credit for wins but does he get the same amount of blame for losses?

Evan5
Evan5

 @BrianButler Dilfer never played for the team as a Super Bowl winning QB, he was cut after they won. 

 

I'd take Rodgers, he's young as well and obviously very very good and will soon sign for more money.   But I don't think Green Bay was offering him straight up.  The others are 35 and older so i wouldn't want to sign them up for 5-6 years.  And it was a market rate deal, Cleveland, KC, Arizona and many more would have paid the same.

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @Evan5 Obviously you make good points about the long drives, the dropped passes, etc. My point is that he is not worth $120 mil. That makes him the highest paid player in the history of the NFL!!! The article is about his salary. my response is that he is an above average QB. In my opinion, I would take Rodgers, Brady, Brees  and others above him. I dont even think he is the best player on this team. Do you? BTW, Dilfer was also a Super Bowl winning QB.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @Scramble Peel back your misery and enjoy the fact that the Ravens won the Super Bowl.

Evan5
Evan5

 @Scramble  @JoeCabot Flacco led the team on two long drives in the second half.  Not bad after 84 minutes between plays.  Did he do much better if Rice runs it in from the 1?  Or if Bajema isn't held on third down?  Or if Pitta catches that 3rd down pass that would have extended one of the field goal drives? 

Scramble
Scramble

 @JoeCabot With Jacoby Jones running back a kick off and Jacoby Jones making a touch down from a pass he had to fall down to catch. I think Jacoby Jones, the true Super Bowl MVP, won that one for the Ravens. If you take a deeper look, Flacco crapped the bed in the second half. He is our 30 minute quarterback.

Evan5
Evan5

 @BrianButler You need to stop worrying about how this team won the Super Bowl and just enjoy it.  Buy a new hat or something.  Was it better last year when they had a much better team but lost because of a drop and a missed FG?  Or in Pittsburgh because of some fumbles and drops?

 

Going forward they have a Super Bowl winning QB for the first time in franchise history.   It's March, just enjoy it.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @BrianButler  And if the Ravens chose not to re-sign Joe Flacco, you would be okay with it?

BrianButler
BrianButler

 @Scramble  @GD94134 I was just talking about that game. If the Chiefs QB doesnt fumble on 1st and goal from the 1, we lose. I love anything Baltimore but I am not a Flacco fan and yes I catch hell for it. He can totally disappear for long periods of a game. He is very inaccurate, either throwing high most of the time or just plain missing receivers. I still cant believe we won the Super Bowl. From the Mile High Miracle, which was a horrible defensive gaffe, to Jacoby Jones and Anquan Boldin making spectacular plays, we would be talking about a very average QB. People forget about the 4th and 29 against the Chargers, the Patriots missing a FG in the first game against the Ravens, the Cowboys missing a game winning FG and even the browns who had a TD called back which would have been the winner!! I just dont get it...

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @Scramble  Easy to make any argument when you cherry pick your data.   Like this:  when was the last time Manning, Brady, or Brees won a Super Bowl like Joe Flacco just did?

Scramble
Scramble

 @JoeCabot When was the last time Manning, Brady or Brees didn't throw a touchdown in a game against the worst team in the league. And yet they are paying Joe Fleece more money than them.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

 @Scramble  The Ravens, not you, won three AFC playoff games and the Super Bowl, and you are complaining about a game played on October 7th?   Some of you guys will go deep looking for something to complain about.

Duncan
Duncan

 @Scramble  @GD94134 Right! At best, he's average. There are 70ish QBs in the NFL, and Joe Flacco falls somewhere in the mid-30s!

 

Most road playoff wins in NFL history, playoffs every year, but he didn't play well in a road win = 37th best QB in the NFL.

Scramble
Scramble

 @GD94134  @Scramble I agree with you 100%. Joe is an average quarterback at best. We beat the worst team in the league last year 9-6. A 120mil quarterback would have put up 40 points.