Posted November 14, 2012

Teammates rip Tim Tebow as Jets’ season teeters on the brink

New York Jets

For the second season in a row, the Jets are dealing with serious turmoil in the locker room. (Kevin Casey/Getty Images)

“He’s terrible.”

That’s what one anonymous Jets defender had to say about Tim Tebow, as part of a New York Daily News report Wednesday that documented a lack of confidence in Tebow within his own locker room.

“We don’t look at him as a quarterback,” a second starting Jets player told Manish Mehta about Tebow. “He’s the Wildcat guy.”

Only left guard Matt Slauson put his name behind his comments in the report, but his sentiment was similar: “It’s not even close,” Slauson said when asked if Mark Sanchez was the Jets’ best QB. “All the other quarterbacks know it. I have all the confidence in Mark. We don’t really have a choice.”

Just another chapter in the ongoing Jets’ saga, as another season slips away under head coach Rex Ryan.

You might recall that less than a year ago, the Daily News also ran a piece with anonymous Jets players railing on Sanchez — that one coincided with Peyton Manning’s pending release onto the free agent market, with the Jets one of the teams thought to be interested in him.

“So many games, he looked defeated before he ever took the field,” a team source said. “He didn’t have much confidence in what he was about to go do. You could tell throughout the week in practice. He never felt comfortable with some of the things we were doing. It was too much for him.”

Then, as now, there were some who pinned the blame elsewhere, with a large chunk of that finger-pointing aimed at the Jets’ receivers. Last season, that group included Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes and (for a bit) Derrick Mason. Only Holmes remains in 2012, and he has been out since early October with a foot injury.

“Look at some of the players he’s throwing to — it’s garbage,” one Jets official told the Daily News. Another added that he’s seen “better receiving corps in college.”

When the Jets made their move for Tebow last offseason, their hope was that his athleticism and somewhat inexplicable ability to produce results would push Sanchez, while providing another element for the offense. Instead, Tebow has been a bit player during a 3-6 start to the season, spending most of his time as a blocker on punts.

Through nine games of the 2012 season, Tebow has 27 rushes for 92 yards and has completed 5 of 6 passes for a measly 40 yards. That’s not exactly game-changing.

Nor is it anything beyond what Drew Stanton likely could have provided as Sanchez’s backup. The Jets signed the mobile Stanton to a free-agent contract in March, only to trade him to the Colts after Tebow made his way to the Big Apple.

Stanton has yet to see any action behind Andrew Luck, but the numbers he posted as a Lion are better than what Tebow’s come up with in his career — Stanton has a career 55.6 completion percentage and has averaged 5.5 yards per carry; Tebow is at 47.9 and 5.1.

The latest Tebow backlash comes just three days after coach Rex Ryan reportedly shed tears while addressing his team following a 28-7 loss in Seattle. And it’s just further evidence that things are far from well within the organization.

Ryan vowed last offseason to improve team chemistry, only to see his players engage in multiple brawls during training camp workouts. The in-house battles are just one of the reasons that both Ryan and GM Mike Tannenbaum find themselves fighting for their jobs as the season makes its turn down the home stretch.

Jets owner Woody Johnson appears to have no choice but to make changes this coming offseason, perhaps major ones. The list of guys on the chopping block could include Tony Sparano, whose first year as offensive coordinator in New York has been a complete disappointment.

Of course, Sparano (as well as Sanchez and Tebow) has been hamstrung by a roster mostly devoid of talent — a problem that falls mostly at Ryan’s and Tannenbaum’s feet. Johnson must use the coming months to decide if this team at least has the building blocks in place to be successful in the near future. If not, then it could be time for a total overhaul, a gutting that includes both the head coach and GM.

The Jets made the playoffs in each of Ryan’s first two seasons with the team (2009 and 2010) but regressed to 8-8 in 2011 and will need to rally just to get back to .500 this season. Sanchez has been the starter for all of those campaigns, but his numbers have held relatively steady across the board — he certainly has not taken the steps forward New York was hoping for when it drafted him No. 5 overall in 2009, then immediately handed him the offensive reins.

Tebow’s presence was supposed to help with all of these issues — the lack of firepower on offense, Sanchez’s inconsistent play and so on. But as the Daily News‘ latest report highlights, it has done nothing of the sort.

163 comments
RSpreier
RSpreier

I would like to know who the gutless, spineless, loser is who comments without putting his name on it. Tebow may not be a good QB, but at least he is a class act. I'm a Bronco fan, and I'm so glad we have Peyton Manning as our QB instead of Tebow, but at least have the BALLS to own your comment.

RSpreier
RSpreier

Sanchez is horrible. Why not give Tebow a chance? The Jets ain't going anywhere but home when the playoffs start.

Reggielegendary
Reggielegendary

I won't knock Sanchez! When he had WRs to throw the ball to, they went to the AFC champ TWICE! They got rid of his WRs and now he looks bad. What did you expect?!?!? A passing QB needs somebody to pass the ball to! Tebow is a gimmick QB.

J57
J57

So let me get this straight. Some teammates are anonymously ripping on Tim Tebow, and yet Mark Sanchez has only thrown 10 TDs with 9 INTs, and the Jets have 3 wins and 6 losses with Sanchez at QB? Am I missing something here?  Sounds like each one of them needs to look and the mirror and judge themselves first.

OzzieSlim
OzzieSlim

How can anyone accurately assess Tim Tebow as being terrible or not based on the limited body of work provided in the NFL so far? One partial season in Denver taking his team to one playoff win and one playoff loss (with it being possible that his leadership skills, energy and drive were more dynamic than his technical skills) and limited playing time, garbage plays on poorly performing divisive team with the Jets.

 

We may never get to see this but the only way would be for a team to bring on Tebow, build a system around his skill sets or season him behind a really exceptional quarterback allowing him to work on his skill set, provide him with complimentary players and let his leadership and energy see how far it can carry a team. What baffles me is that teams are willing to try this for other players considered "athletic" but won't even attempt this for Tebow. Look at all the consideration that has been afforded Michael Vick in this area.

 

I think the time on the Jets has been a real disservice to a young player.

SkipperSam
SkipperSam

Really ?

 

The Wildcat guy ?

 

Really ?

 

Florida beat Cincinnati 51–24 in the 2010 Sugar Bowl. In what was Tebow's last college game, he completed 31-of-35 passes for 482 yards and three touchdowns and accounted for four total touchdowns and 533 yards of total offense, which set a record for a Bowl Championship Series game.

 

At the end of his college career, Tebow held 5 NCAA, 14 Southeastern Conference, and 28 University of Florida statistical records He was the SEC's all-time leader in career passing efficiency (170.8), completion percentage (67.1%), passing touchdown to interception ratio (5.5 to 1), rushing yards by a quarterback (2947), rushing touchdowns (any position) (57), and total touchdowns responsible for (145). Among many mentions in the NCAA Division-I record book, Tebow is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33), 8th in career rushing touchdowns, and also owns the record for most consecutive games in which he both threw at least one touchdown pass and scored at least one rushing touchdown 

 

Wow

 

And you folks say he cannot throw ?

 

YuckDaFankees
YuckDaFankees

Good job Jets way to pull together and inspire NJ after Sandy.  Even the dirty Saints could do that.

Daniel21
Daniel21

Correct me if I'm wrong but that "wildcat guy" won a playoff game against the Steelers last year. 

Ernie Ernie
Ernie Ernie

I think maybe some players, and there has to be more than one, that see commotion behind the scenes and Tebow is the center of it just by being there. If I was Sanchez, going into the season I would clearly understand that there was a large target on my back and that would effect my performance from the get go. and it has to some extent.

What these guys are really saying is that they feel Tebow sucks so why is he there making things worse. Get rid of him and move on. He is not the solution. That's what several players believe.

Scottylew
Scottylew

I find it funny that the crappy jets team is ripping a guy that hasn't even played... LOL.. Might want to look at the crappy guys that are playing and that are losing every game.. LOL idiots. ripping the guys on the bench? LOL.. Try ripping your crappy QB, crappy WR, and crappy coaching......

Ernie Ernie
Ernie Ernie

If they put this guy in and the team starts to play better, isn't it really saying, you have people on the team holding back? Funny, Denver had a solid team but started to play better with Tebow in there. Why can't these guys play with Sanchez. He is not the only problem on that team. Receivers are dropping balls, running backs aren't running, the defense sucks so its not a lets put Tebow in thing, its an attitude thing. 

Chris8
Chris8

I'll take an active NFL player's assessment of Tim Tebow over some fan's, or reporter's any day.  But step up and stand by your statements.  They have no trouble prancing and flailing around on the field like they're some kind of badass but they gossip like seventh grade girls.  We may not have liked players like T.O or Chad Johnson, but at least when they said something they didn't hide behind some hidden curtain like a bad dating show. 

NewKev
NewKev

isn't there a BCS Championship winning QB on that team?

ClevelandGAL
ClevelandGAL

Cuz real men comment anonymousy....what a joke

jeffbout30
jeffbout30

Cant stand Tebow or Sanchez but Tebow has a better excitement Quality, put him in to sell seats, make the games interesting!!   Team sux right now, coach bites , gut it...LOL   GO BRONCOS....Iam so glad Tebow is gone  Jets can have him  LOL...MANNING ROCKS.

zionroaster
zionroaster

Loser comments from a losing team. No wonder they're in the shape they're in. They're picking on a guy who barely plays.

maggie
maggie

They have more vaginas in the Jets locker room, than at a production of The Vagina Monologues!!! Grow some balls guys, quit talking about your teammates behind their backs & remember this is the NFL, not the cast of Gossip Girls! Oh, & I'm a woman too.

pljaye
pljaye

Chew on these stats: 316 yards passing, 2 touchdowns, no ints, FIVE completions of over 30 yards, a Broncos' all-time postseason passer rating record (125.6), 50 yards rushing, ! rushing TD -- And those are just Tebow's stats from a single game -- Denver's playoff victory over the Steelers, a team that also happened to have the NFL's top-rated passing defense! 

 

Did any of you Tebow bashers even watch a single Broncos' game last year? Probably not.

 

Steveo
Steveo

 @SkipperSam Well Skip...college is a lot different from the pros. In college, it's easier to have better, faster and more athletic  players than your opponent and Florida does a real good job of that.  All you have to do is look at Steve Spurrier...he won a National Championship with Florida with consistently top performing teams.  He stunk it up with the Redskins using some of the same Florida players from that championship team including the Heisman Trophy winner at quarterback.  So...that's the difference...in the NFL, everybody plays at a high level and no team has a distinct advantage of faster, more athletic players. There isn't a single pundit out there that thinks this guy is an NFL quarterback...and I agree.  His accuracy in the pros just flat out stinks...in the NFL you have to be accurate as coverages are much tighter and there's less room for error.  Even in Denver, he never even cam close to his collegiate numbers...enough said.

struckanerve9
struckanerve9

 @SkipperSam That was college.  Let it go.  He's NOT AN NFL QB!!!  There are plenty of dominant college players who don't pan out in the NFL.  He's one of them.  The only reason the guy doesn't have more interceptions is that half the time his passes don't even land on the FIELD!

elzorrogris74
elzorrogris74

 @SkipperSam well then theres something definitely wrong with his pro game... either that or he has crappy luck with recievers.

 

Tebow's a big dude, put him as a full time running back. He can take the punishment, and you know he will never give up on a play... ever.

YuckDaFankees
YuckDaFankees

 @Ernie Ernie But the NFL can't lose their token Hispanic QB even if he identifies himself as mostly greek and sucks regardless of his ethnicity.

elzorrogris74
elzorrogris74

 @Scottylew i would go with the coaching. Theyre the ones not putting him in... why the hell did they even sign him if theyre not going to use him? As a motivator to the Sanchize? please...

SkipperSam
SkipperSam

 @NewKev One won 4 bowl games 2 National Championships A Heisman trophy

NCAA Division-I record book,is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33)

 

And in his final collage game threw 31-of-35 passes for 482 yards and three touchdowns and accounted for four total touchdowns and 533 yards of total offense, which set a record for a Bowl Championship Series game.

Ernie Ernie
Ernie Ernie

 @jeffbout30 Trouble is, this is what Tebow wants too and I have to think he is behind a lot of this. He has a way of being there in the middle. Current QB not cutting it, I'm right here ready to do what my team ask of me. The issue really is, Sanchez is not the whole problem but is getting the whole blame.

pval
pval

 @zionroaster

 

Most probablt they are fed up to hear about stories of "Tebow to the rescue" when they feel he cannot help the situation.

 

So they are not so much as picking on him as telling outsider to stop with this crap when they know Sanchez is their only option at quarterback. (Which does means they are happy with the way the said Sanchez has been playing).

 

Say what you will but a dozen players is quite a lot of people (almost a quarter of the roster)  willing to risk problems just to send this message out...

 

And I can't help to notice that for all Ryan's huff and puff about this leak, the message sent out is actually strengthening his stance on the QB question.....

 

I wouln't be surprised if all that wasn't an exercise in media manipulation on the jets, in order to get the press off their back about Tebow.

 

 

 

 

pval
pval

 @maggie

 

 

So you think courage is a masculine virtue that comes with "having balls" ? I very much doubt that you are wompan "Maggie"..

 

They required anonymity to keep out of trouble with their organization, as most people who talk to the press and have reason to fear trouble.

 

Besides what makes you think they haven't made clear  how they feel to the other members of the team Tebow included ? 

 

And oh, I notice that, like all of us, you use a nickname and not your full name.

 

So you like anonymity too.

 

Would you have posted the same thing if you had used your real name ? ... don't think so.

 

So you are pretty much  a case of the pot calling the kettle black.... And probably a liar to boot...

 

 

struckanerve9
struckanerve9

I did.  I saw a one-trick pony with a good defense and an amazing amount of luck. 

Ernie Ernie
Ernie Ernie

 @pljaye Its also the best game he played in his life on a very very very talented team. he didn't just end up on a rebuilding project and make them better, it was like joining a yankee's championship team. 

 

Someone in Columbus
Someone in Columbus

 @pljaye

 Except most of that came in the 2nd quarter.  Otherwise they were scoreless in quarters 1 and 3 and managed a FG in the 4th quarter - the Broncos let the Steelers back into the game.  Look at the stats.  And of course there was that game against the Pats..... 

dapinter
dapinter

@struckanerve9 @SkipperSam - Sanchez sucks! If Tebow is in at QB full time, he'll do 100 times better than that wimp Sanchez!

struckanerve9
struckanerve9

And sucks as a pro.  Someone call Ryan Leaf!!!  He was good in college, he must be good in the NFL!

JeremyAnderson
JeremyAnderson

Wow pval, you have issues with women on top of being a Jets fan? That is rough! The good news is that many states are now legalizing Gay marriage, so maybe there’s hope for you yet.

Now lets get to tearing apart your weak argument above:

"So you think courage is a masculine virtue that comes with "having balls" ? I very much doubt that you are wompan "Maggie".."

Where to start with that, hmmm. Since you love assumptions and conjecture so much, I am going to assume that maggie was assuming that an NFL locker room should come with balls and was using men’s ego against them by challenging their masculinity; this brings me to my second point, that sounds EXACTLY like something that would come out of a woman’s mouth so it is clear to me you don't actually understand woman AT ALL.

"So you like anonymity too". This is your feeble attempt to try and draw a parallel between what the Jets players did and an online chat board. WEAK!

 

“So you are pretty much a case of the pot calling the kettle black.... And probably a liar to boot...”

As stated above, your parallel is so incredibly pathetic that you FAILED to make any real case for either of those statements and points very clearly to your insecurity and lack of female companionship and/or your anger at having not come to terms with your sexuality.

Get a life!

Signed

Jeremy Anderson

pljaye
pljaye

Did you even read what you wrote--you're criticizing Tebow because he threw for a majority of his yards in the second quarter? Do you think that any quarterback in the NFL throws for the same amount of yards in each quarter? You do realize that he accounted for over 350 yards of offense against the Steelers defense and also accounted for ALL 3 of Denver's touchdowns in the Bronco's VICTORY, right? And you do know that Tebow led the Broncos to several fourth-quarter comebacks, right? Are you going to criticize him because he played better in the fourth quarter of those games than he did in the second quarter? Seriously, you call yourself a football fan?

SkipperSam
SkipperSam

 @struckanerve9  @NewKev who was he playing behind ?

 Vikings

Jim McMahon  1993

Warren Moon and Brad Johnson 1994

Detroit Lions

Scott Michell

Dave Craig

49;s

Steve Young

SkipperSam
SkipperSam

 @struckanerve9  @NewKev And one 1 national championship

Also Young is considered a flop yet 

Young holds the NFL record for rushing yards by a rookie quarterback with 552, breaking the old record of 408 yards set by Bobby Douglass in 1969. He won the Associated Press NFL Offensive Rookie of The Year honors at the conclusion of the 2006 NFL campaign, becoming only the third quarterback to win the award, along with Dennis Shaw and Ben Roethlisberger.

On February 3, Vince Young was named to the 2007 Pro Bowl 

SkipperSam
SkipperSam

 @struckanerve9  @NewKev Geni only chance to play in an NFL game came in the 1996 season finale when he came off the bench for the Seahawks against the Oakland Raiders. He immediately threw a 32-yard touchdown pass to Joey Galloway that put Seattle ahead, leading the team to victory.

struckanerve9
struckanerve9

 @SkipperSam  @NewKev A.  NO ONE CARES WHAT HE DID IN COLLEGE!  There shouldn't be a B, but...

Gino Toretta (Miami Hurricanes) won a National Championships and a Heisman trophy.  Oh...and his teams were 26-1. 

 

FLOPPED in the pros. 



SkipperSam
SkipperSam

 @NewKev  @struckanerve9 Look up how well Steve Young did his first three years.

 

What did the Florida Coaches know that you don't

 

Where did all these NFL players come from Mars

 

All you Tebow haters

2006

Tebow played a role in the Gators' victory in the 2007 BCS National Championship Game against Ohio State. He threw for one touchdown and rushed for another, finishing with 39 rushing yards. He finished 2006 with the second-most rushing yards on the Gator team.

2007

Tebow was named the Florida Gators starting quarterback for the 2007 season. He opened the year 13-of-17 for 300 yards and three touchdowns in his starting debut against Western Kentucky University.

 

Tebow finished the regular season with the second highest passing efficiency in the nation with 177.8. Additionally, he averaged 4.3 yards per carry on the ground.

 

In 2008, Tebow led Florida to a 13–1 record and its second national championship in three years, and was named the offensive MVP of the national championship game. The Gators again went 13–1 in 2009, his senior year. At the conclusion of his college career, he held the Southeastern Conference's all-time records in both career passing efficiency and total rushing touchdowns,

 

Name a NFL"flop' who had a collage record better or close to Tebow

struckanerve9
struckanerve9

Uh...kev?  We're talking about Tebow.  No one even mentioned McElroy.  Not that I'm terribly impressed by what I've seen from him in pre-season games.

NewKev
NewKev

 @struckanerve9 And McElroy sucks as a pro??? - I haven't even seen him play QB for the Jets yet. Maybe he should start...

 

esgalan2
esgalan2

 @JeremyAnderson

And I am the one who is supposed to be angry ?

 

Oh my ! For angry rant, just look at what your post !

 

I simply reacted (albeit pointedly)  to what "Maggie" wrote , which was misogyny pure and simple :

balls = courage and honesty = good

vagina = cowardice and hypocrisy= bad

 

The "balls" might pass, as sexist as it is, its part of the common language. But adding that bizarre image of Jets players "having vaginas" put it waaay over the top. There is no other way of calling it, but blatantly mysogynistic.

if you don't understand that, or you think it's OK,  it's your problem. It doesn't change the fact it is.

About anonymity I find my parallel perfectly relevant :   the "pot calling the kettle back" label do apply to someone making an anonymous statement lambasting someone making and anonymous.  if you don't see it, you are a lost cause to rational argument.

Which brings us to my next point : You say find my parallel weak pathetic and failed.... etc.., yet  you offer no counterpoint whatsover, no argument of any sort.

Merely saying so, doesn't make it so. That is not debating, that is trying to shout the other guy down...

 

I felt I could fairly make the conjecture that "Maggie" might not be a woman because I know many who find  all that balls = courage crap tiresome and stupid.  And the vagina stuff as the body part of cowardice or hypocrisy really didn't "sound" like what A woman would write.

That 's why  I doubt   that "Maggie" is really one. Of course I am not sure (how could I be ?).. But that speculation didn't come out of nothing.

 

You, on the other hand, made a long string of peremptory assumptions about me, based on a whole lot of nothing.

Here they are :

 

That I am a Jet Fan :  How did you come to that conclusion  is a complete mistery !  Really eats me. (BWT I am not, and I don't hate them either).

 

That  I am having issues with women. : Whoah !  Because  I blasted someone for using  misogynitic language ?

 

Do you realize how moronic this looks  ?

 

Just as moronic, is your equating "having issues with women" to being gay. Boy,  if there are men  who usually don't have any issue with women is it  gay men !! (Except of course the possible competition for bisexual guys..lol )

 

The rest of your rant is a confused speculation about me being insecure, lacking female companionship ( but since I am supposed  to be gay , how should that be a problem ?) and being very angry etc etc.

 

On this last one you have something of a point : , I WAS a little bit p**ed off by a post that,I felt, was both very hypocritical and crudely misogynistic.

 

But boy, you, went BALLISTIC !  Compared to your post, mine is but a gentle chiding.

Why,  i wonder,  would you be so incensed by what I wrote,? Why are you so mad at me , since  you were not the one on the receiving end of my  post ?

 

OMG, I just got it...

 

You would be mad,  if in fact you WERE on the receivind end.....

 

Isn't that right , Jeremie "Maggie" Anderson ?

 

That would explain a LOT of things :

"vaginas" and  "balls",

"challenging their masculinity",

"failing to come to terms with one's sexuality" ,

"not understanding women" ,

"having issues with women" = gay ,

 

All of them your words,

 

one post hidden behind a woman's first name.

.the other proudly signed by a man.....

 

Boy oh boy...

 

But, of course, all that is, again, pure speculation on my part....

 

I don't KNOW,, nobody ever will...

 

Anonymity : isn't it a great thing, sometimes  ?

pljaye
pljaye

You're not a football fan? Now there's a shocker.

Someone in Columbus
Someone in Columbus

 @pljaye

 No - I am critcizing you for puffing up a victory that was barely a victory.  If Tebow was as hot a quarterback as people like you have made him to be, then we wouldn't be having these discussions.  But everyone sort of glosses over the bad parts - I don;'t see the overall season record mentioned, they forget the 3 game losing streak the Broncos had at the end of the season, they ignore the fact that Denver really had only one real good quarter from a quarterback who people like yourself are heralding as Superman in the Steelers game (The Steelers scored in 3 of 4 quarters).  If he was truly as great as you have made him to be - they should of been able  move the ball and score at will - but it didn't happen now did it?

 

And no I don't call myself a football fan.  I enjoy the game.  I don't breathe stats though.  But I am tired of this one person getting all of this attention for a lot of nothing. 

M as in Mancy
M as in Mancy

 @pljaye

Yeah guy, and Vince Young and Jeff George had some fantastic games too.  The public and coaching staffs are evaluating overall body of work.  One season isn't enough to make a definitive judgement but if my job's on the line I wouldn't hand the reins of an already terrible offense to a 47% passer. 

 

He is a great guy and deserves a chance based on some nice flashes in big games.